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LTC-100 and Digital Signing
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:52 pm
by jmorris
At the renewal the DPS trooper stated that the instructor did not need a copy of the LTC-100 signed by the student. The very latest version of the form supports this as all three blocks are now set up for a digital signature. The student would not be able to digitally sign the form in class on my computer. The only process I can see is to email the form to the student after I sign it.
But! The form is password protected so how are they going to open it?
Looks like I'm still going to be printing for a while.
(I didn't see this discussed anywhere.)
Re: LTC-100 and Digital Signing
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:11 pm
by Keith B
You may be able to save the signed form as a .pdf and then email the completed form to the student.
Re: LTC-100 and Digital Signing
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:13 pm
by STR8-SHOT
Download the TinyScanner app or equivalent to your smart phone and take a picture of the signed form at the gun range. The app turns the pic into a PDF file for your records. Then just give the original to the student. This process still requires bringing printed copies of the LTC-100 with you to class. I pre-fill these forms with the date of the course, time spent on each module, my name and instructor number, and the range address.
David
Re: LTC-100 and Digital Signing
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:27 pm
by jmorris
I've done all that. I actually have a small wireless printer I take to the range. It's just that DPS set the form up for both parties to be able to digitally sign yet the student can't.
Re: LTC-100 and Digital Signing
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:43 am
by twomillenium
I have my students fill their portion of the LTC100 with signature and proper date of class by hand. Then I make copies and they do not receive their LTC100 until the have passed the class session and the proficiency shooting. I have scanned and sent a pdf file to a student who had a legitimate need for that assistance.
Re: LTC-100 and Digital Signing
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:24 pm
by jmorris
twomillenium wrote:I have my students fill their portion of the LTC100 with signature and proper date of class by hand. Then I make copies and they do not receive their LTC100 until the have passed the class session and the proficiency shooting. I have scanned and sent a pdf file to a student who had a legitimate need for that assistance.
I do basically the same. I just found it funny that the latest form is set up for all digital signatures but it's impossible for the student to digitally sign it. Unfortunately a form cannot be set up to be only partially password protected. It is possible to use a script to protect individual fields.
Re: LTC-100 and Digital Signing
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:29 am
by kg5ie
jmorris wrote:twomillenium wrote:I have my students fill their portion of the LTC100 with signature and proper date of class by hand. Then I make copies and they do not receive their LTC100 until the have passed the class session and the proficiency shooting. I have scanned and sent a pdf file to a student who had a legitimate need for that assistance.
I do basically the same. I just found it funny that the latest form is set up for all digital signatures but it's impossible for the student to digitally sign it. Unfortunately a form cannot be set up to be only partially password protected. It is possible to use a script to protect individual fields.
You are attempting to induce logic into a government process and form.