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New ATF Form 1 Help

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So I will be doing two ATF form 1's in the upcoming month now that the new ATF rules are in place. (1 for a SBR build and 1 for a suppressor build)

It doesn't look like the ATF has updated the Form 1 available online with the CLEO notification information since I will be submitting these as an individual. Anyone have any insight or info on what process I should follow now that the rules have changed? Or should I just call the ATF?
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I thought you had until 7/13 to eform 1 under old rules?
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LSUTiger wrote:I thought you had until 7/13 to eform 1 under old rules?
That is correct.
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I dont want to file under the old rules. I want to file under the new rules. I don't have a trust and will be filing as an individual. IE I will be doing the CLEO notification only.

However, there doesn't seem to be a new Form 1 yet that represents these changes.

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As stated above you cannot file under the new rules until 7/13/16. That's said who knows whether they'll have a new Form 1 released by them.
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If anyone is interested the ATF resumed processing Form 1's with eForm. Took 13 business days for approval.

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I highly recommend you go through Silencer Shop for your Form 1. I used their Form 1 service and it was so easy. If you live in the Austin area there main store/office is here. It's a one stop shop and believe me it makes the process so much easier than doing it yourself.

https://www.silencershop.com/

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Silen ... 4473?hl=en
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proudpirate wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:30 pm I highly recommend you go through Silencer Shop for your Form 1. I used their Form 1 service and it was so easy. If you live in the Austin area there main store/office is here. It's a one stop shop and believe me it makes the process so much easier than doing it yourself.

https://www.silencershop.com/

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Silen ... 4473?hl=en
I highly recommend that you DON'T go through Silencer Shop right now for an electronic form 1 right now. I've done two stamps by myself since Valentine's Day and had a turnaround time of 13 and 17 days, respectively. If you look at reddit's NFA forum in their big Wait Time thread, most folks who used SS back in January haven't even had their applications sent to the ATF yet; folks from early December are just getting their stamps back now, which is like a tenfold increase in wait time and you're paying more than you need to in the first place. Some folks are even still waiting from November last year... could've basically done a paper one in the mail by that point.
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I can't speak for Silencer Shop, but using eForm is an easy process. I DIY'd the prints & photos and used a trust. No problems. 13 days.
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I've been looking at doing an SBR build myself and was just reading about the Form 1 eFiles. Are these times you folks are seeing for individuals or for trusts?
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The two stamps of mine which took 13 and 17 respectively were individual. In the tracking threads I've been reading, wait time averages for individuals are like 15 days and trusts are 18... a modicum more work of one or two days to check responsible persons, I suppose.

I hate to be "that guy" who has anything but bad things to say about the NFA, but, I must admit, 14-day-wait-times are downright reasonable. If they could digitize fingerprints and just keep them on file instead of mailing in a new set for every electronic form, man, we'd be in business.
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That is pretty incredible. I was floored when I was researching Form 1 eFiles last night and saw the wait times. Thanks for sharing.
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There's a really informative and helpful guide detailing the entire process on Reddit. It's in the NFA subreddit under resources.

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https://www.google.com/search?q=Reddit+ ... efox-b-1-m
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