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Post by LTUME1978 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:36 pm

How many folks have a M&P 2.0? How have they been for you? What is the trigger pull from the factory?

I have several of the 1.0 M&Ps and, after a Burwell trigger job and replacement sights, I have been very happy with them. I bought 2 of the 2.0 compacts last summer to use for the CCP division in IDPA. What a mistake that has turned out to be. They have been to the factory twice for issues (this would have happened quicker if not for work). Just got them back today from round 2 and they are on their way back for the third time. Issues: empty magazines would not drop free of the pistol, original back straps not made correctly (like grabbing a porcupine and not like the back strap on the full size or the current 2.0 pistols), trigger pull between 6 3/4 to 7 pounds instead of the 5 - 5 1/2 pounds they should be. They did fix the issue of the magazines not dropping free but nothing else on the two trips even thought they state that they did on the paper work.

I talked to Burwell about getting trigger jobs done and he said he could make them lighter but could not make other improvements that could be done on the 1.0 M&P triggers because of the design changes that S&W made on the 2.0 triggers.

Similar issues with the rebate magazines. After a very long wait, they sent the wrong magazines. I got a call tag and finally got replacements only to find that those were the wrong magazines as well (they are going back for round three as well).

Am I the only one having these issues?

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Post by bblhd672 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:41 pm

Have 2.0 Full and Compact. Probably 2000+ rounds through the full size, no issues with anything. 200-300 through the compact, no issues other than the trigger is no where close as good as the full size.


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Post by skeathley » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:47 pm

I have the 9mm 2.0 Compact. No problems. It is OK, but just OK. S&W makes some guns that are worth telling everyone about, like the fabulous 686 revolver, and even the Shield. This, not so much. The full-size M&P .45 is also very good.

The Compact is OK, but it's no CZ.

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Post by Maxwell » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:39 pm

Good to know! I love my M&P40c (not a 2.0).
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Post by Grundy1133 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:49 pm

I cant speak for the 2.0 but i have a full size M&P 40 and I recommend checking out apex tactical and replacing the trigger and the sear. i think they sell it as a "carry & duty" kit or somethin like that. I havent replaced the sear yet but i've replaced the trigger and it took my 7lb trigger pull down to ~4.5. they claim that with their sear and their sear spring you can get an even lighter pull. (also they sell a plunger that will get rid of the gritty trigger pull but mine wasn't gritty. i guess i got lucky so i didnt buy it)
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Post by Caribe » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:47 am

I have the M&P 2.0 Compact 9mm. Ive put around 2000 rounds through mine. All I changed was the sights. Trigger breaks around 5.5 pounds. I find the trigger very nice, I did not have to change out anything. Trigger reset can be felt very good. Without shooting the reset is very audible. I have an M&P 9 1.0 that I put an apex duty kit in. Hope that helps.


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Post by jeffbird » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:10 am

I used a completely stock out of the box M&P9 Compact 2.0 for the Rangemaster Instructor Development course (successfully certified) and really like the pistol. Usually I carry a Les Baer full-size 1911, so appreciate a good trigger. The stock trigger was better than most plastic pistols. My only criticism is loading the first round into the mags is difficult. The only change I am making to it is to add some night sights. Going to try the Truglo TFX Pro sights and see how they do. The OEM 3 dots worked fine in daylight.

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Post by oljames3 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:19 pm

I've carried my S&W M&P M2.0 9mm 5inch openly as my EDC for two years. Only change is Dawson Precision fiber optic front sight and charger rear sight. Over 2000 rounds. Completed KR Training's Defensive Pistol Skills Program https://www.krtraining.com/KRTraining/d ... ogram.html and other classes. Now competing in USPSA matches. Shot 149 rounds Wednesday. No issues. No problems.

My youngest brother carries an M&P M2.0 Shield 9mm and my 21 year old son carries an M&P M2.0 9mm Compact. No issues, no problems.

While no brand is flawless, S&W M&P M2.0s have been issue-free for me and mine.
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Post by LTUME1978 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:00 pm

Folks,

I appreciate the replies. All of my 1.0 M&Ps are great once the triggers were tuned up and the sights were replaced. I have made expert is SSP and ESP in IDPA shooting those pistols. My mistake was buying them shortly after they came out. I have heard that there were problems with the early triggers and that changes have been made to the pistols coming out now. I know the back straps are made wrong because they sent me several of the full size (wrong size) 2.0 back straps when I first got the pistols and they are much different (not nearly as aggressive). It just pains me that they will be going back to the factory for the third time for the same reason (it is 1 1/2 hour round trip for me to take them to Fed Ex every time they go back). One would think that they could get this right the first time. Will let you know how this goes. The triggers can be greatly improved by Dan Burwell but the back straps require factory attention.


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Post by jeffbird » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:09 pm

Why do you have to send the pistol back for different backstraps?

Seems like they should just mail you one each of the four sizes of the correct backstraps.


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Post by LTUME1978 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:41 pm

Jeffbird,

I would like to know that as well but they won't send replacements. The ones I have now are so aggressive that I can't wear the pistols inside the waist band as the sides of the back strap are so aggressive. They are also hard on the shirts that I wear for cover garments. It is their nickel to ship the pistols as they issue a call tag but I still have to make the drive to ship them then wait around most of the day when they ship them back. The third trip will be the last, one way or the other.

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Post by oljames3 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:36 pm

LTUME1978 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:41 pm
Jeffbird,

I would like to know that as well but they won't send replacements. The ones I have now are so aggressive that I can't wear the pistols inside the waist band as the sides of the back strap are so aggressive. They are also hard on the shirts that I wear for cover garments. It is their nickel to ship the pistols as they issue a call tag but I still have to make the drive to ship them then wait around most of the day when they ship them back. The third trip will be the last, one way or the other.
Sandpaper. Some my buddies who carry their M&P M2.0s concealed use fine sandpaper to gentle the agressive grip. Or they wear a t-shirt. My brother and son carry theirs IWB with no trouble. I just carry OWB openly.
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Post by oljames3 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:52 pm

LTUME1978 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:41 pm
Jeffbird,

I would like to know that as well but they won't send replacements. The ones I have now are so aggressive that I can't wear the pistols inside the waist band as the sides of the back strap are so aggressive. They are also hard on the shirts that I wear for cover garments. It is their nickel to ship the pistols as they issue a call tag but I still have to make the drive to ship them then wait around most of the day when they ship them back. The third trip will be the last, one way or the other.
Sandpaper. Some my buddies who carry their M&P M2.0s concealed use fine sandpaper to gentle the agressive grip. Or they wear a t-shirt. My brother and son carry theirs IWB with no trouble. I just carry OWB openly.
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Post by LTUME1978 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:22 pm

oljames3 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:52 pm
LTUME1978 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:41 pm
Jeffbird,

I would like to know that as well but they won't send replacements. The ones I have now are so aggressive that I can't wear the pistols inside the waist band as the sides of the back strap are so aggressive. They are also hard on the shirts that I wear for cover garments. It is their nickel to ship the pistols as they issue a call tag but I still have to make the drive to ship them then wait around most of the day when they ship them back. The third trip will be the last, one way or the other.
Sandpaper. Some my buddies who carry their M&P M2.0s concealed use fine sandpaper to gentle the agressive grip. Or they wear a t-shirt. My brother and son carry theirs IWB with no trouble. I just carry OWB openly.
I talked to S&W about doing just that. They told me that, if I sanded on the back straps even a small amount, the warranty would be void. They really box us in. Will see what comes back from the third trip.

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Post by oljames3 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:02 pm

I talked to S&W about doing just that. They told me that, if I sanded on the back straps even a small amount, the warranty would be void. They really box us in. Will see what comes back from the third trip.
Does this voiding of the warranty include trigger modifications, sight replacement, or application of grip tape?
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