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Re: 1911 Carry

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Post by Jose_in_Dallas » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:06 pm

Thanks for the info on the Summer Special guys.


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Post by flechero » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:43 pm

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Thanks gents. I appreciate the info and will check 'em out.
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As an owner and user of a VMII for 10+ years, I'll offer this- I sold my VMII and purchased the Nexus. It solved the only complaint I ever had about the VMII (not enough cant) If the Criterion had been out at that time, I would probably have bought it.

Before you buy a VMII, please look at the Criterion and Nexus. Same basic design but with a bit more cant to aid in both comfort and concealability. Criterion has a reinforced mouth, as the VMII, and the Nexus is not a reinforced mouth... a bit thinner and more concealable but mouth will compress some when gun is drawn.

Super holsters and worth the price of admission... if you don't like a Sparks holster, you can sell them very easily. There are lots of great makers but only a few that you can resell so easily.


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Re: 1911 Carry

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Post by KinnyLee » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:59 pm

+1 on Milt Sparks VM2. I have been using it since 2005

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Re: 1911 Carry

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Post by C-dub » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:34 pm

IMHO, increased forward cant us nice for concealability, but also increases the difficulty of the draw. I prefer a more straight up draw, less cant. It is quicker and easier to draw. So what if there’s a little more bulge from the grip. People don’t pay as much attention as you’d think. Dress around what you want to carry, not the other way around. My 2 cents worth. Maybe only 1.
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Post by flechero » Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:58 am

C-dub wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:34 pm
IMHO, increased forward cant us nice for concealability, but also increases the difficulty of the draw. I prefer a more straight up draw, less cant. It is quicker and easier to draw. So what if there’s a little more bulge from the grip. People don’t pay as much attention as you’d think. Dress around what you want to carry, not the other way around. My 2 cents worth. Maybe only 1.
In my case it's quicker and easier to draw with a canted holster. I guess it all depends on your specific location- My arm and hand naturally move forward and up- matching the cant of the holster. I have to adjust to something unnatural (I have to rotate shoulders back to the gun side) to draw straight up and out... unless I'm forward of the hip point. I wear it behind the point of my hip (4-4:30 for righties) and couldn't draw straight up far enough to clear a 5" 1911 if my shoulder was normal. If I'm forward of the hip point, I have just enough range of motion to clear it.

This is a good lesson to newer LTC'ers.... it reinforces to them and the OP that we all have to do some research or practice to find our natural holster point.
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Post by C-dub » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:38 am

flechero wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:58 am
C-dub wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:34 pm
IMHO, increased forward cant us nice for concealability, but also increases the difficulty of the draw. I prefer a more straight up draw, less cant. It is quicker and easier to draw. So what if there’s a little more bulge from the grip. People don’t pay as much attention as you’d think. Dress around what you want to carry, not the other way around. My 2 cents worth. Maybe only 1.
In my case it's quicker and easier to draw with a canted holster. I guess it all depends on your specific location- My arm and hand naturally move forward and up- matching the cant of the holster. I have to adjust to something unnatural (I have to rotate shoulders back to the gun side) to draw straight up and out... unless I'm forward of the hip point. I wear it behind the point of my hip (4-4:30 for righties) and couldn't draw straight up far enough to clear a 5" 1911 if my shoulder was normal. If I'm forward of the hip point, I have just enough range of motion to clear it.

This is a good lesson to newer LTC'ers.... it reinforces to them and the OP that we all have to do some research or practice to find our natural holster point.
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Exactly.

The more vertical (less cant) is easier and quicker for me and in general everyone, but there are always exceptions.
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Re: 1911 Carry

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Post by AndyC » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:30 am

For folks with short torsos - or even those who wear their pants a bit higher - a bit of cant makes it easier to get the pistol out; not everyone can draw straight up.
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Post by flechero » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:44 am

AndyC wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:30 am
For folks with short torsos - or even those who wear their pants a bit higher - a bit of cant makes it easier to get the pistol out; not everyone can draw straight up.
You callin' me long waisted?!?!?! "rlol"

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Re: 1911 Carry

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Post by oljames3 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:25 pm

For three years I carried my Tanfoglio BTA90, which is very close in size to a Commander .45, in a Galco King Tuk which was designed for a Commander size .45. Worked well. Was fairly easy to conceal and relatively comfortable. Belt clips on the holster tended to mar the steering wheel and seat if I was not careful.
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Re: 1911 Carry

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Post by AndyC » Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:18 pm

flechero wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:44 am
AndyC wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:30 am
For folks with short torsos - or even those who wear their pants a bit higher - a bit of cant makes it easier to get the pistol out; not everyone can draw straight up.
You callin' me long waisted?!?!?! "rlol"
Short-ar$e ;)
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Re: 1911 Carry

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Post by C-dub » Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:38 pm

AndyC wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:18 pm
flechero wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:44 am
AndyC wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:30 am
For folks with short torsos - or even those who wear their pants a bit higher - a bit of cant makes it easier to get the pistol out; not everyone can draw straight up.
You callin' me long waisted?!?!?! "rlol"
Short-ar$e ;)
I thought you were saying that he wears his jeans up a bit, like mom jeans. :biggrinjester:
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