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Post by MJR » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:45 pm

What is needed to get a suppressor in Texas. Ordered the new Glock 44 (.22lr) and a threaded barrel from Glock.
Some type of licensing?

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Post by Jago668 » Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:00 pm

Just the normal ATF stuff, nothing needed on the state level.
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Post by PBratton » Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:45 pm

Suppressor purchase, ATF forms, legal trust, finger prints, pictures, $200.00 and a LOT of patience...
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Post by AndyC » Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:58 pm

Form 4 + $200 + commercial suppressor + probably a year wait.

Form 1 + $200 + homemade suppressor + around 3 week wait.
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Post by QB » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:59 pm

My first 2 suppressors were approved in 4 months (form 4/trust) and my latest suppressor has been in ATF limbo for going on 13 months...sigh. I want a couple more but just can't stomach the wait any more.
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Post by cmgee67 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:19 am

I imagine the take so long to discourage people from buying them. What parts do you recommend to make your own solvent trap?
AndyC wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:58 pm
Form 4 + $200 + commercial suppressor + probably a year wait.

Form 1 + $200 + homemade suppressor + around 3 week wait.

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Post by AndyC » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:59 am

I bought the .22 can as a kit from https://quietbore.com/product-category/solvent-traps/

The 30-cal I have, I built using parts from various suppliers (who may or may not still exist, but it should give you an idea what I used) - details in post #13 here: viewtopic.php?f=87&t=80252
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Post by Charles L. Cotton » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:23 pm

AndyC wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:59 am
I bought the .22 can as a kit from https://quietbore.com/product-category/solvent-traps/

The 30-cal I have, I built using parts from various suppliers (who may or may not still exist, but it should give you an idea what I used) - details in post #13 here: viewtopic.php?f=87&t=80252
What I don't know about suppressor construction would fill volumes. What is needed in addition to the kits in your link?

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Post by Soccerdad1995 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:44 pm

At the risk of going a bit off topic, are you concerned that the suppressor might negatively effect (affect?) the reliability of your G44? I'm really interested in getting that gun, but I'm a bit gun shy after experiencing reliability issues with other .22lr semi-autos.
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Post by E.Marquez » Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:00 pm

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:23 pm
AndyC wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:59 am
I bought the .22 can as a kit from https://quietbore.com/product-category/solvent-traps/

The 30-cal I have, I built using parts from various suppliers (who may or may not still exist, but it should give you an idea what I used) - details in post #13 here: viewtopic.php?f=87&t=80252
What I don't know about suppressor construction would fill volumes. What is needed in addition to the kits in your link?

Chas.
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Post by Scott B. » Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:14 pm

For an existing suppressor you will need an NFA tax stamp to take possession. You can apply as an individual, a trust*, or corporation.
Most eligible gun shops will do the paperwork for you.

There's no registration w/ the state of Texas. The chief law enforcement officer of the county (or state) where you live will be notified as a courtesy, but there's nothing else required.

At this time, you might have wait anywhere from 4 to 10 months before your tax stamp is issued.



*Trusts are not required for NFA items and from my POV should only be used if you have an absolute need for it. i.e., you have multiple people who will be using the same pool of NFA toys [I don't trust anybody that much] or need to pass on your toys to somebody who is not a direct blood relative.

NFA items on an individual tax stamp can be passed, by your estate, to designated direct blood relatives via a tax-free Form 5 application.
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Post by E.Marquez » Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:35 pm

Scott B. wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:14 pm
For an existing suppressor you will need an NFA tax stamp to take possession. You can apply as an individual, a trust*, or corporation.
Most eligible gun shops will do the paperwork for you.

There's no registration w/ the state of Texas. The chief law enforcement officer of the county (or state) where you live will be notified as a courtesy, but there's nothing else required.

At this time, you might have wait anywhere from 4 to 10 months before your tax stamp is issued.



*Trusts are not required for NFA items and from my POV should only be used if you have an absolute need for it. i.e., you have multiple people who will be using the same pool of NFA toys [I don't trust anybody that much] or need to pass on your toys to somebody who is not a direct blood relative.

NFA items on an individual tax stamp can be passed, by your estate, to designated direct blood relatives via a tax-free Form 5 application.
Its always interesting to read others opinions..and I mean that politely.

My position is polar opposite
I believe for most, a Trust is a better choice..I know it is for me personally.
Id say for those doing this for the first time, ...Trust but verify. Research what the advantages and disadvantages for both individual and trust ownership gives you and decide from there.

I dont doubt Scott has done just that and is secure in his position as best for him....The same for me....I suppose it largely depends on how the NFA item will be used and what you want done with it when you leave this earth.
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Post by AndyC » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:35 pm

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:23 pm

What I don't know about suppressor construction would fill volumes. What is needed in addition to the kits in your link?

Chas.
Apart from the Form 1 paperwork mentioned by others, a relevant muzzle-device.

For example, I took the .22 suppressor (which is threaded for the .22 standard of 1/2"×28 threads) to a friend's house and he has a Walther .22 PPQ pistol which comes with a threaded barrel covered by a sleeve - however, those threads on the barrel won't fit and he would have needed to purchase the specific thread-adapter for his pistol.

Another example - I wanted my rifle suppressor to work on a variety of rifles, so I had to carefully choose which muzzle-device I should standardize on so the can would work on all of them. For me that turned out to be the Griffin Armament taper-mount, but YMMV.

I did the trust-thing back in the day specifically so I didn't need local CLEO sign-off, but as that's no longer a thing it comes down to whether one would want the benefits associated with a trust.
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Post by Charles L. Cotton » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:11 pm

AndyC wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:35 pm
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:23 pm

What I don't know about suppressor construction would fill volumes. What is needed in addition to the kits in your link?

Chas.
Apart from the Form 1 paperwork mentioned by others, a relevant muzzle-device.

For example, I took the .22 suppressor (which is threaded for the .22 standard of 1/2"×28 threads) to a friend's house and he has a Walther .22 PPQ pistol which comes with a threaded barrel covered by a sleeve - however, those threads on the barrel won't fit and he would have needed to purchase the specific thread-adapter for his pistol.

Another example - I wanted my rifle suppressor to work on a variety of rifles, so I had to carefully choose which muzzle-device I should standardize on so the can would work on all of them. For me that turned out to be the Griffin Armament taper-mount, but YMMV.

I did the trust-thing back in the day specifically so I didn't need local CLEO sign-off, but as that's no longer a thing it comes down to whether one would want the benefits associated with a trust.
Thanks Andy.

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