NY Range Safety Officer Killed by Negligent Discharge During USPSA Competition

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Very unfortunate. I don't think we'll see details on what transpired, but it would be useful for other clubs and those serving as RO's.

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Apparently, the shooter dropped the gun while holstering. When gun hit the floor it went off.
Assumptions. Seems like an awful lot of accidents happen while holstering. Gun was either a piece of garbage, or was a modified race gun.
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Liberty wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:48 am Gun was either a piece of garbage, or was a modified race gun.
While you may end up being right, it's not been established on the record. (it was alledged to be a CZ Shadow in one of the posts by a bystander)

Funny that you wrote this as part of your post. :lol: :tiphat:
Assumptions.
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flechero wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:47 am
Liberty wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:48 am Gun was either a piece of garbage, or was a modified race gun.
While you may end up being right, it's not been established on the record. (it was alledged to be a CZ Shadow in one of the posts by a bystander)

Funny that you wrote this as part of your post. :lol: :tiphat:
Assumptions.
Reading the comments from the original post, Witnesses and those close to the incident seem to all agree the gun went off when dropped while being holstered. Whether the gun was either garbage or a race gun, I think we can agree that handguns should never off if dropped from waist high and that dropping a weapon while holstering is negligent.
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Liberty wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:06 am
flechero wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:47 am
Liberty wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:48 am Gun was either a piece of garbage, or was a modified race gun.
While you may end up being right, it's not been established on the record. (it was alledged to be a CZ Shadow in one of the posts by a bystander)

Funny that you wrote this as part of your post. :lol: :tiphat:
Assumptions.
Reading the comments from the original post, Witnesses and those close to the incident seem to all agree the gun went off when dropped while being holstered. Whether the gun was either garbage or a race gun, I think we can agree that handguns should never off if dropped from waist high and that dropping a weapon while holstering is negligent.
I read the same and agree they shouldn't but until we have all the facts, we are just assuming. And like I said, you might be 100% right- once the facts are out. :tiphat:
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All familiar with USPSA competition know that it is a cold range. The rules require that firearms are cleared before going on the range and only loaded when the shooter is at the staring point, on instruction by the RO. After the stage, the shooter is instructed to "Unload and show clear." Then, pointing the firearm down range, "Hammer down, holster." On a range run under USPSA rules, there is no administrative handling of loaded firearms. The actual rules are much more detailed. https://uspsa.org/rules
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If all instructions and rules were followed, it most likely would have happened during re-holstering after “load and make ready” at the beginning of the run, not at the end during/after “Unload and show clear/hammer down/holster.” That’s a big IF.

Stupid stuff happens - in the best of circumstances a mishap results in a DQ for the match, a little good-natured (but earned) ribbing, and surviving to shoot next week’s match. We see here what results from the worst circumstances.
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circumspice_tuebor wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:45 pm If all instructions and rules were followed, it most likely would have happened during re-holstering after “load and make ready” at the beginning of the run, not at the end during/after “Unload and show clear/hammer down/holster.” That’s a big IF.

Stupid stuff happens - in the best of circumstances a mishap results in a DQ for the match, a little good-natured (but earned) ribbing, and surviving to shoot next week’s match. We see here what results from the worst circumstances.
This does seem to be the most likely case. I hope we eventually get details. I've been in several USPSA indoor matches. Doesn't seem as safe as it used to.
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