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Re: Man killed at Hot Wells in Cypress

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:47 pm
by JustSomeOldGuy
Cooper Rules 2 & 4 imply that the default setup of your workbench should orient the muzzle AWAY from the customer areas. And that maybe the shop should have a 'clearing barrel'......

Re: Man killed at Hot Wells in Cypress

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:04 pm
by Abraham
Most of you call your selves Christians.

How about some compassion for a person who'll probably never forgive himself?

Yes, I know it was a lethal mistake, but I ask you: "ye without sin cast first stone"

Seems a lot of hypocrisy going around...

Re: Man killed at Hot Wells in Cypress

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:11 pm
by montgomery
Abraham wrote:Most of you call your selves Christians.

How about some compassion for a person who'll probably never forgive himself?

Yes, I know it was a lethal mistake, but I ask you: "ye without sin cast first stone"

Seems a lot of hypocrisy going around...
You willing to double down on that for Philip Brailsford?

This is not about compassion, it is about responsibility. Period.

Re: Man killed at Hot Wells in Cypress

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:30 pm
by Middle Age Russ
This was indeed a preventable tragedy. It has been said that if you are a shooter there is a strong likelihood that you have had or will at some point have a negligent discharge. We follow the Firearms Safety RULES and their corollaries to 1) minimize the chances of having a negligent discharge, and 2) minimize the chances of tragic consequences should a negligent discharge occur. I am sure that the range employee will suffer a good deal of mental/emotional anguish as a result of his actions, but his actions -- by not ensuring that the safety rules were followed -- led to these tragic consequences.

My heart aches for the life taken and those whose lives were forever changed in this event. I pray for peace for all of them.

Re: Man killed at Hot Wells in Cypress

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:00 pm
by montgomery
Middle Age Russ wrote:This was indeed a preventable tragedy. It has been said that if you are a shooter there is a strong likelihood that you have had or will at some point have a negligent discharge. We follow the Firearms Safety RULES and their corollaries to 1) minimize the chances of having a negligent discharge, and 2) minimize the chances of tragic consequences should a negligent discharge occur. I am sure that the range employee will suffer a good deal of mental/emotional anguish as a result of his actions, but his actions -- by not ensuring that the safety rules were followed -- led to these tragic consequences.
:iagree:

Re: Man killed at Hot Wells in Cypress

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:21 pm
by Cheapsk8
I pray for all those involved.

Range employee, and the ranges other employees, LEO on the scene, EMS responders, nurses and DR, and family and friends of all above, not to mention the victims family and friends.

It was, and is a terrible incident and one that probably could have been avoided but the fact remains it happened and for that I pray that all find a way to deal and cope.

I was not there and did not witness it, I can assume a lot of things but without the facts I can not blame, I can only pray for healing of minds and peace for those involved.

Re: Man killed at Hot Wells in Cypress

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:19 pm
by dlh
A few years back I handled one of my old Remington 700 bolt-action rifles made in the sixties.

I was out in a pasture and in a safe area. For some reason the bolt closed on a live-round and would not open back up. I pointed the gun safely to the ground and began to work the bolt when the gun discharged into the ground. My finger was not near the trigger.

I sprayed some Ballistol into the back of the bolt, into the safety, and into the trigger group, waited about ten minutes, and the action then cycled like normal. Got back home, removed the firing pin, cleaned everything up, and have not had any trouble since.

The good news is that nobody was hurt.

Re: Man killed at Hot Wells in Cypress

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:20 pm
by pbwalker
Abraham wrote: How about some compassion for a person who'll probably never forgive himself?
No. Not a bit.

Re: Man killed at Hot Wells in Cypress

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:22 pm
by JRG
Middle Age Russ wrote:This was indeed a preventable tragedy. It has been said that if you are a shooter there is a strong likelihood that you have had or will at some point have a negligent discharge. We follow the Firearms Safety RULES and their corollaries to 1) minimize the chances of having a negligent discharge, and 2) minimize the chances of tragic consequences should a negligent discharge occur. I am sure that the range employee will suffer a good deal of mental/emotional anguish as a result of his actions, but his actions -- by not ensuring that the safety rules were followed -- led to these tragic consequences.

My heart aches for the life taken and those whose lives were forever changed in this event. I pray for peace for all of them.

:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:
Joe

Re: Man killed at Hot Wells in Cypress

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:40 pm
by philip964
The owner sent out a statement saying that they had not had an injury in 40 years.

My sympathies to everyone involved.

Very tragic.

Re: Man killed at Hot Wells in Cypress

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:51 pm
by Wolverine
dlh wrote:A few years back I handled one of my old Remington 700 bolt-action rifles made in the sixties.

I was out in a pasture and in a safe area. For some reason the bolt closed on a live-round and would not open back up. I pointed the gun safely to the ground and began to work the bolt when the gun discharged into the ground. My finger was not near the trigger.
:thumbs2:

Re: Man killed at Hot Wells in Cypress

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:05 pm
by philip964
https://www.click2houston.com/news/who- ... ng-victim-

Man killed was a father of five year old triplets.

Probably enjoyed shooting.

Re: Man killed at Hot Wells in Cypress

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:07 pm
by ELB

Re: Man killed at Hot Wells in Cypress

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:14 pm
by dlh
Good. People and businesses should be held responsible for their actions. Hope the gun-range insurance is "adequate" to cover the terrible losses of this family.

Re: Man killed at Hot Wells in Cypress

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:24 am
by WildRose
If you're carrying a firearm into a shop have the courtesy to open the breech and leave it open.

If you have a firearm with a loaded round that cannot be cleared, leave it in the car, go get the gunsmith and make sure you explain the situation to him him before proceeding.