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The gist of the ban seems to hinge around whether M855 has a legitimate sporting purpose, or not weighed against the safety of law enforcement. I will attest that I have fired some reasonable amount of the commercially available version of that ammunition, usually marketed as XM855 or the like. Every round I fired was fired at a public shooting range at a paper target. The reasonable accuracy and reasonable cost of the ammunition coupled with availability led me to purchase that ammunition for range use. Additionally, it has a similar weight to certain .223 rounds used for hunting (62 grain for the M855 versus 64 grains for the hunting rounds). The cost of practicing with the hunting rounds can be prohibitive. The availability of the similarly weighted M855 allows for quality practice at a reasonable price. If one is hunting, that is not the time to find out you need more practice, or that the zero of your rifle is off. 55 grain projectiles, though rather affordable, have a different point of impact than 62 grain projectiles. Throughout much of the USA, feral hogs have become a problem. They are destructive of crops and waterways among other things. The .223/5.56 mm cartridge is used by a lot of hunters to dispose of feral hogs. They move fast, in groups, and often require a semi-automatic firearm to make a real impact in their numbers. The .223/5.56 mm cartridge and firearms that use it are likely among the most widely used for the purpose. As previously stated, M855 type ammunition provides a cost attractive way to practice target shooting at the range, and to prepare for hunting feral hogs. There are far more long guns, by an incredible measure, that fire the .223/5.56 mm cartridge than pistols designed to do so. Pistols chambered that way are a niche market at best, despite the hype they receive in firearms publications, internet videos, and social media pages. Thus, I do not believe that removing M855 from the market will do much, if anything, to aid the safety of law enforcement, but it will most certainly negatively impact target shooters, sportsmen/hunters, and farmers. I urge you to grant an on-going exemption for M855 type ammunition on this basis. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Please accept this in the “I seek enlightenment,” spirit in which it is intended, not as a combative argument. Most of my info concerning current gun laws come from this an one other board. Both are populated by people far smarter than me. A point that one person on the Pistol Forum made is:Jumping Frog wrote:We have a (R) Congress and an (R) Senate.
Time to put a bill in front of the Oslammer repealing the entire "sporting purpose" nonsense anyway, since the enforcement is entirely arbitrary and capricious. If the (R)'s are smart, they'll embed it in another bill that must get signed, however, even forcing a veto is better than not acting at all.
Do I understand the the “sporting purposes” test actually reduces the restrictions on types of guns we can own?The three major places it (sporting purposes) appears in federal gun law are to exceptions to otherwise complete bans, so it certainly isn't as simple as just repealing the "test." This is why NRA opposed a number of bills in the mid 2000s to repeal the sporting purpose test for imports. Those bills didn't put anything in place of the test, and would have had the effect of creating an outright ban on importing firearms. I also think the import test would be the easiest to fix, any firearm that can be lawfully sold in the United States should be importable.
Until the term "sporting purposes" is redefined to what the antis want in order to ban everything.BigGuy wrote:Please accept this in the “I seek enlightenment,” spirit in which it is intended, not as a combative argument. Most of my info concerning current gun laws come from this an one other board. Both are populated by people far smarter than me. A point that one person on the Pistol Forum made is:Jumping Frog wrote:We have a (R) Congress and an (R) Senate.
Time to put a bill in front of the Oslammer repealing the entire "sporting purpose" nonsense anyway, since the enforcement is entirely arbitrary and capricious. If the (R)'s are smart, they'll embed it in another bill that must get signed, however, even forcing a veto is better than not acting at all.
Do I understand the the “sporting purposes” test actually reduces the restrictions on types of guns we can own?The three major places it (sporting purposes) appears in federal gun law are to exceptions to otherwise complete bans, so it certainly isn't as simple as just repealing the "test." This is why NRA opposed a number of bills in the mid 2000s to repeal the sporting purpose test for imports. Those bills didn't put anything in place of the test, and would have had the effect of creating an outright ban on importing firearms. I also think the import test would be the easiest to fix, any firearm that can be lawfully sold in the United States should be importable.
You may be joking just a little there, but if you're serious at all I think you're too late. From what I understand, M855 is already nearly impossible to find and what is left has dramatically gone up in price since this announcement.rbwhatever1 wrote:One would think folks are using M855 ball in Pistols to attack all sorts of "armored stuff" from coast to coast creating much turmoil and mayhem for the Crown. I don't have any M855 but this makes me want to order a few thousand rounds to put in storage with my new Ballistic Vest, braced 223 Pistol and any other item I can think of that has been banned in the Kingdom.
We need to ban the BATFE.
Yeah, I've just checked my usual resources, and it's pretty much all gone.C-dub wrote:You may be joking just a little there, but if you're serious at all I think you're too late. From what I understand, M855 is already nearly impossible to find and what is left has dramatically gone up in price since this announcement.rbwhatever1 wrote:One would think folks are using M855 ball in Pistols to attack all sorts of "armored stuff" from coast to coast creating much turmoil and mayhem for the Crown. I don't have any M855 but this makes me want to order a few thousand rounds to put in storage with my new Ballistic Vest, braced 223 Pistol and any other item I can think of that has been banned in the Kingdom.
We need to ban the BATFE.
It will temporarily drive the price up on other 5.56 FMJ, if for no other reason than the law of supply and demand. All the M855 buyers are now M193 buyers, and that means an increase in demand for M193, without there having been a pre-scheduled increase in production to offset the demand.rentz wrote:
I enjoy his videos but that one is killing my eyes going in and out of focus.
I have 855 ammo, but i ended up switching to 193 due to some places not allowing the 855/green tip ammo. But as the video says its going to drive the price up on ALL ammo.