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HR3999 bumpstock legislation slippery slope

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Post by LSUTiger » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:07 pm

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Chance favors the prepared. Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.
There is no safety in denial. When seconds count the Police are only minutes away.
Sometimes I really wish a lawyer would chime in and clear things up. Do we have any lawyers on this forum?

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Post by LSUTiger » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:29 pm

Chance favors the prepared. Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.
There is no safety in denial. When seconds count the Police are only minutes away.
Sometimes I really wish a lawyer would chime in and clear things up. Do we have any lawyers on this forum?

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Post by OldCannon » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:44 pm

That bill is DOA and any GOP member that supports it has guaranteed somebody else will take their seat next election.
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Post by anygunanywhere » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:46 pm

LSUTiger wrote:petition white house

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... ass-hr3999

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Post by TexasJohnBoy » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:44 pm

Writing my reps; feel free to modify and reuse
Dear Representative/Senator XXXXX,

I am writing you today in regards to H.R.3999, the bill recently introduced to ban bump stocks for semiautomatic rifles. As your constituent, I would like to voice my strong opposition to this bill. It is a poorly worded, vague and ambiguous bill which will no doubt be abused by future administrations and bureaucrats, and should not be passed. This bill is neither common sense nor a compromise, is the very definition of a slippery slope, and will set an alarming precedent for retroactive criminalization of law abiding citizens.

Please take my comments into consideration, and if this bill is put forth for your consideration vote against it.
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Post by LeonCarr » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:36 pm

Petition signed, and I also signed the one to repeal the NFA :rules:

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Post by LSUTiger » Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:11 pm

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Post by TreyHouston » Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:25 pm

NRA is against this ban, wants ATF to relook at it. This bill will never pass.
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Post by BBYC » Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:26 pm

TreyHouston wrote:NRA is against this ban, wants ATF to relook at it. This bill will never pass.
Didn't people say that about the AWB?
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Post by TreyHouston » Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:34 pm

BBYC wrote:
TreyHouston wrote:NRA is against this ban, wants ATF to relook at it. This bill will never pass.
Didn't people say that about the AWB?
That was what, 25 years ago?
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Post by MaduroBU » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:34 pm

The bill could be construed to ban the strikers on a Browning Cynergy versus the slower inertial hammers on a Citori. Over/under shotguns are semiautomatic weapons.

What an awful piece of legislation.


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Post by Soccerdad1995 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:43 pm

MaduroBU wrote:The bill could be construed to ban the strikers on a Browning Cynergy versus the slower inertial hammers on a Citori. Over/under shotguns are semiautomatic weapons.

What an awful piece of legislation.
As written, this bill would criminalize the possession of any semi-auto firearm that has had any work done to the trigger, along with a multitude of other potential modifications. This is not just about bump stocks, and it's not just about AR's.

Barack Obama never was bold enough to actually try to take our guns. This bill takes our guns. It doesn't just ban future manufacture and sale of affected semi-auto firearms. This is nothing less than the complete confiscation of a huge percentage of the weapons that are owned by our citizenry. And it is supported by a number of republicans in congress.
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Post by BBYC » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:25 pm

They will keep trying to infringe the right of the people to keep and bear arms as long as there are no consequences for it.
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Post by OldCannon » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:30 pm

BBYC wrote:
TreyHouston wrote:NRA is against this ban, wants ATF to relook at it. This bill will never pass.
Didn't people say that about the AWB?
Very different times.
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