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im semi new to chl and i want a micro 1911

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Post by glock27 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:01 am

im new to the world of chl i would like to carry a 45, but i dono much about .45's.. i originally had a .45 tactical xd 5 inch and i did not feel like i could hit anything with it... now i am in the market for a micro compact .45 for self protection, after i have shot my glock 27 i am wanting to upgrade..... i would like it to be around $500-$700 depending on brand and use... and i would like to fire it first... i will pay for the ammo for test fire.... as i am a smaller framed guy and i think it would fit me better... unless you have something equavlint... but i am only 170 and i would like to conceal a .45 if possible....
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Post by rmr1923 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:04 am

call around to some local shooting ranges, many of them will let you rent guns for testing purposes for a small fee ($12 at my local range)

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Post by Pawpaw » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:46 am

You might have a better chance of someone helping you out if you let us know where you're located.
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Post by heeler » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:03 am

Kahr has a PM45 that is about as micro as a 45acp can be and in the price range you quoted.
It weigh 19 ounces empty.
Not sure how controllable it would be in that caliber but it is what you are asking for.

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Post by gigag04 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:51 am

I strongly suggest you look at the Kahr over a 3" 1911 if you are inexperienced with shooting. 1911s are less than ideal for people starting out, and the smaller ones require even more finesse, skill, and luck. While the sights may have been off on your xd, it was more likely shooter error. Small 1911s look cool, but I think your G27 is a great gun.
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Post by LarryH » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:21 pm

Practically speaking, if you didn't feel like you could hit anything with a full-sized 1911, what makes you think you'll do any better with a micro?

You'd be dealing with a shorter sight radius AND stronger perceived recoil.


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Post by b322da » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:56 pm

LarryH wrote:Practically speaking, if you didn't feel like you could hit anything with a full-sized 1911, what makes you think you'll do any better with a micro?

You'd be dealing with a shorter sight radius AND stronger perceived recoil.
:tiphat: to Larry.

Larry's comments are very, very true, Glock27 -- a simple matter of physics. Neither my XD-40, Springfield microcompact .45 GI, nor my Colt Defender can hold a candle to my old Colt "real" M1911. While I have settled on the Defender as my primary carry weapon, shared perhaps 50/50 with my SP101 revolver, if I want dependable accuracy beyond say 30 feet or so, under stress and hurried conditions, I would opt for the M1911. (I pick this distance for being, in my case, I stress, what I assess as the critical self-defense range.

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Post by C-dub » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:07 pm

Don't do it! You'd have to change your name. lol
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Post by Pacifist » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:21 pm

glock27 wrote:after i have shot my glock 27 i am wanting to upgrade...
The more I shoot my G-27 (and I've shot it a lot), the more I'm glad it's my primary carry gun.
glock27 wrote:but i am only 170...
That's pretty advanced age to be carrying at all!


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Post by glock27 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:56 am

With my 5 inch xd I could hit close range but once it got out to about 20 yards it didn't feel right... id like a small 45 for sd use. Where most encounters would be less then 15 feet. With my g27 I lov e it and can pretty much put a bullet wherever I want for the most part. Pretty much I'm just looking for a small package accurate 45 equivalent to my g27. In size


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Its been awhile since I posted I've also read the "beaver tail" is obnoxious on the micros with recoil?
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Post by gigag04 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:47 am

G36 then. Or G30 for more rounds and more bulk.
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Post by RPB » Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:56 am

I think 1911s are beautiful, but wanted a 2011/double stack for capacity.

I was about to go Glock 36 for reliability and smaller grip, then the antis want crippled capacity so I thought, better make it a Glock 30 ...

Ended up with a Stainless XD45 with the Thumb safety and grip safety.
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Post by G26ster » Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:35 am

glock27 wrote: Its been awhile since I posted I've also read the "beaver tail" is obnoxious on the micros with recoil?
It's not the beavertail safety you want to avoid, it's the "duckbill" (G.I.) safety that will bite you.


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Post by Derf » Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:57 pm

:iagree:

I have a Kimber Ultra CDP II that I plan to use for concealed carry. With +P defensive ammo (Corbon 185 grain +P JHP here) and an aluminum frame, control for follow-up rounds difficult if you are not prepared for it (the felt recoil). Additionally, as was said earlier, the shorter sight radius will make accuracy decrease for most. As far as 'bite' goes, yeah, it will take some time to build up a callous on the web of the hand, but once it has, you don't even notice it anymore....at least I don't.

The G27 is a great weapon. I previously owned one, but sold it to my brother for a concealed carry weapon before I left Oregon. He likes it a lot better than any of my 1911 frame weapons, and is a really big guy (6'5" 255).

So, I guess I'd ask you the following:
- Is there a specific reason, other than caliber, that you want to use something other than the G27? (the .40 S&W is a fine defensive round IMO)
- Are you having difficulty with concealing or accurately hitting the target with your G27?

I personally like the .45 ACP round, and ergonomically, the 1911 frame is very well suited to my hands. However, if there was another weapon, in another caliber that was even better suited to me based on reliability, ergonomics, and ability to conceal, I'd make the change in a heartbeat. BTW, I still own a Glock 23, and it was my primary off-duty carry weapon as a LEO back in the day. I plan to carry it in the winter when heavier clothing is the norm.
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