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How to disarm correctly

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Post by jeremybme » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:33 pm

So the scenario is:


i goto meet friends and i see a 51% sign, so i go back to the car where i keep a pistol lock box in the trunk, can I just pull my gun out of my IWB and then secure in trunk and not worry if anyone happens to catch me in the act of being un-concealed?

what about when we leave, can i walk back to the trunk pull it out of the lock box and put it back in my IWB?

i'm new to all of this and im carrying daily now so i'm trying to understand and be prepared for situations that might present themselves.

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Post by grim-bob » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:37 pm

you need to stay concealed so what you have listed won't work. One option would be to disarm in your car out of view then wrap the weapon in a shirt or towel to place in the trunk. Same for rearming. But the action of going to the trunk to obviously stow something is really calling attention anyway.

What I would recommend and what I believe most here do is to disarm in the vehicle and put it in a locked console or lockable gun box cabled to the seat or something else immovable.
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Post by mojo84 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:40 pm

For various reasons, I try to make what I'm doing as inconspicuous as possible. As far as legality, I wouldn't be too cavalier about intentionally exposing my handgun. That may get you some unwanted attention.

Also, as time has gone on though, I have become less concerned about the occassional accidental unintentional exposure.

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Post by Pawpaw » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:59 pm

PC §46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER.
(a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder’s person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally displays the handgun in plain view of another person in a public place.
This is where you would most likely get in trouble with a MWAG call.

Also, that thief who is lurking in the parking lot now knows where to steal a gun. :tiphat:
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Re: How to disarm correctly

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Post by Itnkrman » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:34 pm

grim-bob wrote:What I would recommend and what I believe most here do is to disarm in the vehicle and put it in a locked console or lockable gun box cabled to the seat or something else immovable.
:iagree: For this exact reason, I have a nanovault that is kept under the passenger seat of my car with the cable wrapped around the seat base. A worthy ~$30 investment for added privacy, security and convenience.

IMO, going to the trunk every time would eventually become a PITA and might cause you to quit carrying all together.
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Post by Jeepsk8 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:48 pm

This is only my second post, but I drive a Jeep and have a underseat lockbox that is actually bolted to the seat. If I'm somewhere I can't carry, I just reach under the seat, and place the handgun in there. Once I get out, I just lean over and lock it up. Works really well.

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Post by Glockster » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:22 am

Two things that either drive me nuts, or give me pause.
- I have a nano for the car but what with all the wiring and hardware under both front seats, while I can manage to get it under the seat, it is extremely difficult to get out. Which leaves me with having to get out, and stand there bent over into my car practically standing on my head, trying to free the box...only to then have to get back inside to open the box to retrieve my weapon. And don't get me started about trying to bend over while in my seat and get the key in the nano's lock with out rendering myself unconscious from my head banging on the steering wheel.
- I don't know about anyone else but having to put my IWB holster back into my WB while sitting there isn't the easiest thing to do. Never seem to get it just right as the dang seatbelt thingie is r-r-right there. And as for worrying about MWAG, have also been in a situation when just about to put the holster back into my WB only to have a minivan pull up next to me, a bunch of kids pile out and stand there with one of them staring at me. So then I have sat and waited as it would make my day for the kid to point at me and start telling Mom that that man has a gun.

I really miss OC on those days and admit that there have been a few times where I knew I couldn't carry at one particular upcoming destination, and decided that I just didn't want to fight with the nano that day, so didn't carry.
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Re: How to disarm correctly

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Post by epontius » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:43 pm

I carry fullsize 92fs in an IWB AlienGear holster. If I need to disarm, I go back to the car, scoot down in the seat a little and remove my gun making sure to keep everything below the sight line of the windows and slip it into the glovebox and lock the glovebox. Then do the reverse for re-arming. I've thought about getting a gun vault micro for the car if I can figure out a way to secure it.
I think the goal is to be as discrete as possible and try not to attract too much attention. Until this country is a little more used to the legal handling of firearms anyone that sees anyone with a gun will automatically assume they are up to no good.


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Post by Abraham » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:26 pm

Itnkrman is right on the money.

Cabled to the seat frame, very strong boxes, are relatively inexpensive, (I paid about $40/45 for my Center of Mass lock box) and when one has to disarm, this is one very good way to to go...

Disarming in the open, for all to see, not at all good...from possible arrest to theft is never a good approach.

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Post by suthdj » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:47 pm

Honestly I have a vault under my seat attached with a cable to the frame of the seat. now given how thin the metal is I suspect a good yank or 2 will deform the metal enough so the vault and gun get taken, so I don't even bother with it any more just drop in center console or put under back seat and go about my biz. If it gets stolen I just get a new gun. Honestly my glove box would be a better spot but it is full of manuals I never read and repair bills and it doesn't lock like the old cars did.
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Post by Jumping Frog » Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:38 am

I just slip my still-holstered gun (Comp-Tac IWB Minotaur) out from my belt and drop the still-holstered gun into the center console. Coming back to the car, I open my belt and slide the holstered handgun into my waist band and tuck the shirt around it, refasten the belt, and go.

I don't spend any energy worrying about it, it has become second nature.
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Post by RetNavy » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:25 am

Glockster wrote: - I don't know about anyone else but having to put my IWB holster back into my WB while sitting there isn't the easiest thing to do. Never seem to get it just right as the dang seatbelt thingie is r-r-right there.
one day a week i visit my kids schools for lunch with them and at least twice a week i have physical therapy.... on those days regardless if I'm carrying IWB or OWB i leave the holster on and just lock the weapon in the console... AND lock the doors... havent been called out yet for the empty holster even though those in therapy has seen it and i suspect the school resource officer seen my OWB one day, but he hasnt said anything.. When stowing the weapon and re-holstering I always check the area to ensure nobody sees it....
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Re: How to disarm correctly

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Post by Maxwell » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:58 pm

I mounted a lock box into the console of my truck and then cabled it to the console frame. It's easy to get to and as safe as anything else. On the rare occasion I need to disarm (day care) I drop it in there before I get out of the vehicle and rearm when I return.
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Post by kkahler » Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:37 pm

What about 46.02(2)?
PC §46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS
. (a) A person commits an
offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his
or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the person is not:
(1) on the person’s own premises or premises under the person’s control; or
(2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned
by the person or under the person’s control.


Don't get me wrong...I completely understand the point of being discrete with your firearm; however, legally can't you disarm in a parking lot? Maybe standing behind your car disarming your firearm isn't "en route"...

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Post by joe817 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:49 pm

kkahler wrote:What about 46.02(2)?
PC §46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS
. (a) A person commits an
offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his
or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the person is not:
(1) on the person’s own premises or premises under the person’s control; or
(2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned
by the person or under the person’s control.


Don't get me wrong...I completely understand the point of being discrete with your firearm; however, legally can't you disarm in a parking lot? Maybe standing behind your car disarming your firearm isn't "en route"...
You can disarm in the parking lot, but a Pawpaw said above, the issue would then be:
"PC §46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER.
(a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder’s person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally displays the handgun in plain view of another person in a public place."

Not 46.02(2)
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