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MHMR (Waco) Legal Sign?

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Post by Texheim » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:24 am

Hey y'all. I've gotten info from the forum before and finally decided to join. I'm active elsewhere and enjoy shooting and firearms in general.
As a part of my job I travel to outside business on delivery. I work for a small independent restaurant and enjoy the ability to carry every day;
I also carry on deliveries and CC in every building I'm legally allowed to.

I ran across an odd sign yesterday on delivery that said something to the effect:
The licensed carry of a concealed handgun on these premises is illegal under
Texas civil statue 4413 (23ee(?))

Well first it's not a the 30.06 sign but I didn't carry in the building in anyway because I wasn't quite
sure if there was some carve out in the law for Mental Health facilities.

I've sense gone back and read the referenced code and it's nothing more than the CHL rules and specifically mentioned the
30.06 signage and the 51% signage.

Am I missing something or is this an invalid sign?
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Re: MHMR (Waco) Legal Sign?

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Post by JJVP » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:43 am

Texheim wrote:Hey y'all. I've gotten info from the forum before and finally decided to join. I'm active elsewhere and enjoy shooting and firearms in general.
As a part of my job I travel to outside business on delivery. I work for a small independent restaurant and enjoy the ability to carry every day;
I also carry on deliveries and CC in every building I'm legally allowed to.

I ran across an odd sign yesterday on delivery that said something to the effect:
The licensed carry of a concealed handgun on these premises is illegal under
Texas civil statue 4413 (23ee(?))

Well first it's not a the 30.06 sign but I didn't carry in the building in anyway because I wasn't quite
sure if there was some carve out in the law for Mental Health facilities.

I've sense gone back and read the referenced code and it's nothing more than the CHL rules and specifically mentioned the
30.06 signage and the 51% signage.

Am I missing something or is this an invalid sign?
That is the old law/ sign before 30.06 was adopted. No longer applicable. You are licensed under Chapter 411 not 4413. Carry on.

One caveat, some jurisdictions might still arrest you, even though the sign is outdated. You'll beat the rap, but you still might take the ride.
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Re: MHMR (Waco) Legal Sign?

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Post by bdickens » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:52 am

Not enforceable, if that's what you mean.
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Post by bdickens » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:54 am

JJVP wrote:One caveat, some jurisdictions might still arrest you, even though the sign is outdated. You'll beat the rap, but you still might take the ride.

I'm sure by now that the word has gotten out.
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Re: MHMR (Waco) Legal Sign?

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Post by Texheim » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:12 pm

JJVP wrote:
Texheim wrote:Hey y'all. I've gotten info from the forum before and finally decided to join. I'm active elsewhere and enjoy shooting and firearms in general.
As a part of my job I travel to outside business on delivery. I work for a small independent restaurant and enjoy the ability to carry every day;
I also carry on deliveries and CC in every building I'm legally allowed to.

I ran across an odd sign yesterday on delivery that said something to the effect:
The licensed carry of a concealed handgun on these premises is illegal under
Texas civil statue 4413 (23ee(?))

Well first it's not a the 30.06 sign but I didn't carry in the building in anyway because I wasn't quite
sure if there was some carve out in the law for Mental Health facilities.

I've sense gone back and read the referenced code and it's nothing more than the CHL rules and specifically mentioned the
30.06 signage and the 51% signage.

Am I missing something or is this an invalid sign?
That is the old law/ sign before 30.06 was adopted. No longer applicable. You are licensed under Chapter 411 not 4413. Carry on.

One caveat, some jurisdictions might still arrest you, even though the sign is outdated. You'll beat the rap, but you still might take the ride.
Thanks guys, wasn't carrying before 30.06 so I wasn't quite sure. McLennan country is pretty good with us law abiding citizens but there's always the chance of a LEO with an agenda.
I also have to walk the line of "do I push the issue while working and risk the possibility of them no longer doing business with us." Oh well, well rather be fired than dead...
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Re: MHMR (Waco) Legal Sign?

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Post by Waco1959 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:46 pm

Texheim wrote:Thanks guys, wasn't carrying before 30.06 so I wasn't quite sure. McLennan country is pretty good with us law abiding citizens but there's always the chance of a LEO with an agenda.
I also have to walk the line of "do I push the issue while working and risk the possibility of them no longer doing business with us." Oh well, well rather be fired than dead...
A number of medical clinics in Waco (MacArthur, Fishpond, Bosque, maybe the rest?) still have the old signs up and I carry right past them. The older local hospital has gunbusters signs, but no 30.06, on all of the entrances I've ever used. There are also old signs at some local retirement/rehab places but they put theirs on the inside, which really makes no sense. I guess it is so the residents can remember?

I never point out that the signs are outdated because they might change them.

BTW, I still need to get with you sometime to talk Taurus and get my free lunch. ;-)


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Post by tommyg » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:51 pm

It is too risky to carry in a mental institution.. If one of the patients gets your gun there
will be big trouble and maybe someone will be killed.. What is legal is often not a good idea :smash:
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Re: MHMR (Waco) Legal Sign?

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Post by surprise_i'm_armed » Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:04 am

tommyg wrote:It is too risky to carry in a mental institution.. If one of the patients gets your gun there
will be big trouble and maybe someone will be killed..
What is legal is often not a good idea :smash:
Consider this version:

If one of the patients picks up a kitchen knife and flips out, and you DON'T have your gun, maybe someone will be killed"

There, I fixed it for you. No charge. :-)

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Re: MHMR (Waco) Legal Sign?

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Post by Texheim » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:22 am

tommyg wrote:It is too risky to carry in a mental institution.. If one of the patients gets your gun there
will be big trouble and maybe someone will be killed.. What is legal is often not a good idea :smash:
It's a clinic for treatment not a full blown mental institution and they're not getting getting close enough to me to get my concealed gun...
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Re: MHMR (Waco) Legal Sign?

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Post by Texheim » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:24 am

Waco1959 wrote:
Texheim wrote:Thanks guys, wasn't carrying before 30.06 so I wasn't quite sure. McLennan country is pretty good with us law abiding citizens but there's always the chance of a LEO with an agenda.
I also have to walk the line of "do I push the issue while working and risk the possibility of them no longer doing business with us." Oh well, well rather be fired than dead...
A number of medical clinics in Waco (MacArthur, Fishpond, Bosque, maybe the rest?) still have the old signs up and I carry right past them. The older local hospital has gunbusters signs, but no 30.06, on all of the entrances I've ever used. There are also old signs at some local retirement/rehab places but they put theirs on the inside, which really makes no sense. I guess it is so the residents can remember?

I never point out that the signs are outdated because they might change them.

BTW, I still need to get with you sometime to talk Taurus and get my free lunch. ;-)
Yes we do as long as we aren't talking paint or over due library books... :lol:
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Re: MHMR (Waco) Legal Sign?

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Post by Waco1959 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:30 am

Texheim wrote:
Yes we do as long as we aren't talking paint or over due library books... :lol:
Out of the paint business and I don't work circulation so you're safe. :mrgreen:

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