Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

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Post by hillfighter » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:27 pm

Based on my formal training I do practice a tape loop but it sounds like that's not for everybody.

More importantly, I think it's important to rehearse what you're going to say after you shoot, if it comes to that. Not so much to 911 although that is important, but what are you going to say to the bystanders who think you shot somebody? We often talk about people being unaware of their surroundings, so there's a good chance if people are nearby the BOOM! of a gun is what bumps them out of their own little bubble. Imagine they look over and see you holding a gun and a man lying on the ground. If you're silent but deadly, what's the chance they think you're a good guy?
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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

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Post by crice8 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:28 pm

I was taught to raise my left hand as if showing to stop and yell "Stop, Don't Move, Your Scaring me!"

Everyone knows what the hand gesture means universally so if the perp had headphones or hearing issues there is no claim that you made no cammand to stop.

I was told under no circumstance to say anything along the lines of "I have a gun" "I will shoot/kill you" all of these remarks could be turned against you in court whereas the one I was taught shows you were in fear of your life.


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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

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Post by Rrash » Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:58 pm

Each situation is unique (i.e. facing multiple bad guys in a hallway inside your home vs. one bad guy in an open rural area and distance between you and him) If I felt the circumstance required me to draw, yet given the reasonable option, I would try to yell "drop the knife," or "show me your hands," etc. I don't necessarily practice a phrase though. Even then, that line is so narrow and muddy, I don't think you could anticipate what to do for any given situation. Bad guys tend to be unpredictable, illogical, and often make poor choices, so I would definitely err on the side of my own personal safety.
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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

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Post by Beiruty » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:06 pm

The most dangerous situation is when you are out at night, in really bad weather, or surrounded by a mob. Or, combination of the above.

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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

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Post by Dreamer42 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:01 pm

One CHL trainer I've read about practices saying, "Go away. I have nothing you want!" prior to drawing his weapon, but placing his gun-hand on the hip (weapon) to prepare to draw, if necessary, and holding out his non-gun hand out in a "stop" posture. This could be interpreted a few ways, including the lead I may be sending your way if you threaten me. While many here may feel saying anything before drawing a weapon is bad practice, keep a few things in mind. 1) It may alert bystanders to a threat instead of just hearing a "bang" and seeing you standing over a body. So, now you have witnesses that can defend you instead of people who just heard a shot. 2) Your verbal and body language may be enough to send the perp running.
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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

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Post by suthdj » Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:37 pm

Not sure if this counts, but I would yell "Bang Bang" :fire I was a small child with a toy gun.
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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

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Post by 03Lightningrocks » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:08 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote: Ecclesiastes 3, verses 1 though 8.5:
3 There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:
2 a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
3 a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,
4 a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,
6 a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,
7 a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
8 a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.
8.5 a time to talk, and a time to shoot,
a time to stand your ground, and a time to run like heck.
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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

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Post by Oldgringo » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:19 pm

Lightning, didn't Mary "Leave on a Jet Plane" not too long ago?

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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

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Post by 03Lightningrocks » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:20 pm

Oldgringo wrote:Lightning, didn't Mary "Leave on a Jet Plane" not too long ago?
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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

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Post by 03Lightningrocks » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:25 pm

I decided a few years ago to use a line from one of my favorite movies.

"I've killed women and children. I've killed just about everything that walks or crawled at one time or another. And I'm here to kill you, Little Bill, for what you did to Ned."

or maybe this one... another from one of my favorite films.

"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."

Which one I use depends on the situation. :tiphat:

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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

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Post by WildBill » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:46 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote: Ecclesiastes 3, verses 1 though 8.5:
3 There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:
2 a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
3 a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,
4 a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,
6 a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,
7 a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
8 a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.
8.5 a time to talk, and a time to shoot,
a time to stand your ground, and a time to run like heck.
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Are you sure that is not a Peter Paul and Mary song?
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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

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Post by 03Lightningrocks » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:18 pm

WildBill wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote: Ecclesiastes 3, verses 1 though 8.5:
3 There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:
2 a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
3 a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,
4 a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,
6 a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,
7 a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
8 a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.
8.5 a time to talk, and a time to shoot,
a time to stand your ground, and a time to run like heck.
(New Second Amendment Version, Zondervandsky)
Are you sure that is not a Peter Paul and Mary song?
The Byrds viewtopic.php?f=83&t=56450&p=868277#p868277" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ahah! Just the same, that sure is alot of stuff to sing before you fire your weapon. :coolgleamA:

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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

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Post by gigag04 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:54 pm

I say the dadada dadada from ESPN SC then do tricks
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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

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Post by WildBill » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:14 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote:
WildBill wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote: Ecclesiastes 3, verses 1 though 8.5:
3 There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:
2 a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
3 a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,
4 a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,
6 a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,
7 a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
8 a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.
8.5 a time to talk, and a time to shoot,
a time to stand your ground, and a time to run like heck.
(New Second Amendment Version, Zondervandsky)
Are you sure that is not a Peter Paul and Mary song?
The Byrds viewtopic.php?f=83&t=56450&p=868277#p868277" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ahah! Just the same, that sure is alot of stuff to sing before you fire your weapon. :coolgleamA:
You only sing the first verse ... then you hum the rest. ;-)
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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

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Post by apostate » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:01 pm

WildBill wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:Ahah! Just the same, that sure is alot of stuff to sing before you fire your weapon. :coolgleamA:
You only sing the first verse ... then you hum the rest. ;-)
I would suggest humming the 1812 Overture instead but then he might know when you're going to shoot. ;-)

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