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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:09 am
by RogueUSMC
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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:21 pm
by mack113
no

Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:30 pm
by o b juan
this is the funniest 2222est question I have heard lately..

" You will not know what to do until it happens" Take my word for it

you can plan all you want but s happens..

it depends on you observation abilities before it happens :roll: :roll:

Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:37 am
by stevem
I train two options, the variable is the context of the draw. If I am drawing "proactively", that is before I am actually under attack, no verbalization. If I am under attack, as in a close range snarl, I will yell "BACK OFF!" in conjunction with drawing and deploying my weapon. It's just a good all-around policy:

-Tells bad guy you don't want any.
-Tells any witnesses you didn't want any.
-Tells yourself you tried everything you could before shooting the bad guy.
-Forces bad guy to mentally process another piece of info causing some disruption.
-Forces you to breathe.

Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:26 am
by HerbM
I train to yell "BACK OFF" (and actually do this in practice).

Like you (Steve) I probably learned this particular phrase from Tom Sotis who is back in Austin next week for a seminar which I am again attending.

Actually, I practice this as a 3-part order. BEFORE the threat become mahnifest, "Please back off". WHEN the approach begins with a Command, "Back OFF" and finally if the threat is manifest with "BACK OFF!".

Drawing happens during or after that last BACK OFF -- if the threat is a surprise attack then I go IMMEDIATELY to the "BACK OFF!" and the draw as necessary.

Surprisingly this actually require a bit of practice (and refreshers) to get MOST people to do correctly.

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HerbM

Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:31 pm
by jonnyboy01
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Hilarious! "rlol" :fire

Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:43 pm
by LSUTiger
I generaly go into a monologue where I divulge all my evil plans before I ......oh wait that's the wrong scenario.

While effective verbal commands can be beneficial to a desired outcome and probably have their place in this situation, its not something I generally think about. I try to focus on situational awareness, practice my draw and shooting/reloading.

But I don't think the question is as silly as some make it out to be.

For a CHLer or anyone in a self-defense situation, if the scenario permits the use of verbalization before action, probably what you shouldn't say is more important.

I would attempt to communicate in some way that if they do not cease and desist in their current actions that are threatening me that I will be forced to defend myself.

Failing to give a warning is not important to me as you may not have the opportunity. But if you say anything at all, I would try not use any kind of racial slur or any language that would give any witnesses the idea that I was some trigger happy person who couldn't wait to shoot someone. The aftermath is what you will have to deal with next and you don't need any extra nonsense perception of a witness to turn a legitimate act of self defense into a criminal offense.

Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:50 pm
by Oldgringo
LSUTiger wrote:I generaly go into a monologue where I divulge all my evil plans before I ......oh wait that's the wrong scenario.

While effective verbal commands can be beneficial to a desired outcome and probably have their place in this situation, its not something I generally think about. I try to focus on situational awareness, practice my draw and shooting/reloading.

But I don't think the question is as silly as some make it out to be.

For a CHLer or anyone in a self-defense situation, if the scenario permits the use of verbalization before action, probably what you shouldn't say is more important.

I would attempt to communicate in some way that if they do not cease and desist in their current actions that are threatening me that I will be forced to defend myself.

Failing to give a warning is not important to me as you may not have the opportunity. But if you say anything at all, I would try not use any kind of racial slur or any language that would give any witnesses the idea that I was some trigger happy person who couldn't wait to shoot someone. The aftermath is what you will have to deal with next and you don't need any extra nonsense perception of a witness to turn a legitimate act of self defense into a criminal offense.
So, you wouldn't say anything like, "GEAUX TIGERS", before opening fire? :smilelol5:

Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:50 pm
by WildBill
apostate wrote:
WildBill wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:Ahah! Just the same, that sure is alot of stuff to sing before you fire your weapon. :coolgleamA:
You only sing the first verse ... then you hum the rest. ;-)
I would suggest humming the 1812 Overture instead but then he might know when you're going to shoot. ;-)
:lol:

Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:38 pm
by MechAg94
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Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:10 pm
by SpringerFan
Not sure, I guess it depends somewhat on the situation. I know it will be very loud with lots of profanity.

Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:14 pm
by jlrockboy
If I ever have to use force the only yell will be bang when the round goes off.

Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:17 pm
by jmra
jlrockboy wrote:If I ever have to use deadly force the only yell will be bang when the round goes off.
Fixed it for you. Use of "force" does not result in a "bang".

Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:08 am
by TREKFAN
texanjoker wrote: phrase we had to practice during high risk take downs is
"I believe you to be armed and dangerous. Do what I say or you will be shot."
That is pretty clear and direct with 2 options for the bad guy. On top of commands one needs to present them selves with command presences so the BG knows you are capable of doing what you say.

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I agree but if I fired my weapon, I would alert everyone around me that I am a concealed handgun license holder so I don't get shot by another CHL holder, also saying so MIGHT let other around you know that you are a good guy. In addition I would state for someone to call the police, probably direct someone to do so.
example. I am licensed to carry a handgun, is everyone alright? You there, in e blue shirt, call 911.

Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:46 am
by Commander Cody
The Annoyed Man wrote:
thatguy wrote:a time for talkin and a time for doin, not time for both...
Ecclesiastes 3, verses 1 though 8.5:
3 There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:
2 a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
3 a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,
4 a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,
6 a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,
7 a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
8 a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.
8.5 a time to talk, and a time to shoot,
a time to stand your ground, and a time to run like heck.
(New Second Amendment Version, Zondervandsky)
I do not "practice", but this is a good plan.