Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

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Post by PriestTheRunner » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:07 pm

Abraham wrote:
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Were I have to children in the college age, I would recommend some Christian college and I'm not a Christian.

Get away from commie based ideology based schools.
It plagues all schools, Public, Private and Christian alike. Or did you not notice that EVERY SINGLE PRIVATE SCHOOL (Except for one lonely trade school) opted out of the campus carry law.

Having obtained my bachelor's in December 2015 from a private, christian university- I can promise you the liberal mindset pervades every nook and cranny of higher education. Woe to you if you disagree with them... :roll:

Unfortunate, but true.

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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

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Post by John Galt » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:46 pm

Liberalism is the philosophy of the terminally stupid.


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Post by OneGun » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:49 pm

I find it humorous that the Professors' arguments is that campus carry inhibits free speech. I didn't think there was free speech in the classrooms. Just the Professors' ideology is taught to a captive audience..
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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

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Post by ELB » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:02 pm

OneGun wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:49 pm
I find it humorous that the Professors' arguments is that campus carry inhibits free speech. I didn't think there was free speech in the classrooms. Just the Professors' ideology is taught to a captive audience..
It would be interesting if there were a reliable way to measure how many students felt their ability to speak their minds in class was inhibited by

a) some LTC holder might be armed!

or

b) the professor might retaliate.

I'll bet I know which happens more often.
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Post by Deltaboy » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:05 pm

Texas Baptist Colleges were told by BGTC Legal Counsel that any accidents would open the schools to lawsuits and loss of insurance!
This was also pushed by Insurance companies! :tiphat:

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Post by srothstein » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:11 pm

Lynyrd wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:14 pm
J.R.@A&M wrote:
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An appeal of this case is being heard Wednesday by a panel of judges on the 5th Circuit Ct. of Appeals. http://tpr.org/post/us-5th-circuit-set- ... -carry-law
Renae Hicks, who represents UT Austin sociology professor Jennifer Glass, appealed that ruling to the U.S. 5th Circuit Court.
Just a question. How much does a sociologist make? :biggrinjester:
According to the Texas Tribune salary database, this particular sociologist makes $220,817 annually. I am guessing that makes her a fairly senior tenured professor.
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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

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Post by apostate » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:22 pm

srothstein wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:11 pm
Lynyrd wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:14 pm
J.R.@A&M wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:39 am
An appeal of this case is being heard Wednesday by a panel of judges on the 5th Circuit Ct. of Appeals. http://tpr.org/post/us-5th-circuit-set- ... -carry-law
Renae Hicks, who represents UT Austin sociology professor Jennifer Glass, appealed that ruling to the U.S. 5th Circuit Court.
Just a question. How much does a sociologist make? :biggrinjester:
According to the Texas Tribune salary database, this particular sociologist makes $220,817 annually. I am guessing that makes her a fairly senior tenured professor.
If the courts rule in favor of civil rights, I hope the taxpayers get reimbursed for the money wasted on this frivolous stunt. The nutty professors' inflated salaries should be docked for every penny.

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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

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Post by Jusme » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:30 am

My question to these idiots, has always been, what kept guns out of their classrooms before campus carry took effect? If they answered, the law, I would then want to know, if they believed, only law abiding citizens, would suddenly, began shooting professors over opinions?
These same students, who followed the law, by not bringing guns to class (and that is only conjecture, since there is no proof) will obviously continue to follow, the law, and not shoot professors over differing opinions.
Time is against these litigants, since it has been almost two years since the law went into effect, and there has not been one incident, at any Texas university, where an LTC holder, has shot, or even threaten to shoot a professor.
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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

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Post by SQLGeek » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:30 am

srothstein wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:11 pm
Lynyrd wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:14 pm
J.R.@A&M wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:39 am
An appeal of this case is being heard Wednesday by a panel of judges on the 5th Circuit Ct. of Appeals. http://tpr.org/post/us-5th-circuit-set- ... -carry-law
Renae Hicks, who represents UT Austin sociology professor Jennifer Glass, appealed that ruling to the U.S. 5th Circuit Court.
Just a question. How much does a sociologist make? :biggrinjester:
According to the Texas Tribune salary database, this particular sociologist makes $220,817 annually. I am guessing that makes her a fairly senior tenured professor.
As an aside, I can't imagine why education is so expensive these days....
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Post by philip964 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:47 am

Not all college professors are liberal. Larry Bell is a conservative and shoots his 1911 very well.

He writes for Newsmax in his spare time.

https://www.newsmax.com/larrybell/c02-p ... id/868073/

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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

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Post by ELB » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:37 pm

SQLGeek wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:30 am
As an aside, I can't imagine why education is so expensive these days....
Her salary is probably low compared to the administration salaries. Under the reign of the previous Speaker of the House, there seemed to be no effective legislative check on how the state universities spend their money, or what nonsense they choose to indoctrinate students with. It was a miracle, and measure of licensed carry's support in the rest of the Legislature, that campus carry made it through at all.

ETA: There is an article today in the Stateman, since the 5th Circuit hearing it today, but the article doesn't present anything new:

https://www.mystatesman.com/news/state- ... eJsgOzmlO/

ETA2: It appears the hearing did happen today, and now the wait for what the three-judge panel decides.
https://wtop.com/education/2018/07/the- ... arry-case/
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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

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Post by Scott B. » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:22 pm

Look at the geometric growth of university administrations since just the early 90s.

I remembered reading this a couple of years ago and dug it back up:

"Even more strikingly, an analysis by a professor at California Polytechnic University, Pomona, found that, while the total number of full-time faculty members in the C.S.U. system grew from 11,614 to 12,019 between 1975 and 2008, the total number of administrators grew from 3,800 to 12,183 — a 221 percent increase."

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/05/opin ... -much.html

"University of Texas System exploded between 2011 and 2017...grew 64 percent, hitting the mark of 923 administrative employees in 2017, according to records."

https://texasmonitor.org/university-of- ... l-tuition/

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Post by Deltaboy » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:47 pm

The State needs to restore financial oversight over the State Colleges cause it out of control! :tiphat:
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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

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Post by DevilDawg » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:28 pm

SQLGeek wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:30 am
As an aside, I can't imagine why education is so expensive these days....
This isn’t caused by the liberal or leftist propoganda, but rather the multigeneration brainwashing that you are nothing without a degree. Coupled with government backing on student loans.


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Re: Three professors sue UT to keep guns out of their classrooms

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Post by MaduroBU » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:59 pm

DevilDawg wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:28 pm
SQLGeek wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:30 am
As an aside, I can't imagine why education is so expensive these days....
This isn’t caused by the liberal or leftist propoganda, but rather the multigeneration brainwashing that you are nothing without a degree. Coupled with government backing on student loans.
Not all degrees are created equal.

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