30.06 sign but no 30.07

CHL discussions that do not fit into more specific topics

Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton


Topic author
EdnaBambrick
Banned
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 37
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:18 pm

30.06 sign but no 30.07

#1

Post by EdnaBambrick »

The 30.06 sign reads - "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by license holder with a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun."

If there's no 30.07 sign, would this mean that you could open carry into that same establishment ? The gun is no longer concealed.

casp625
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 671
Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:24 pm

Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07

#2

Post by casp625 »

EdnaBambrick wrote:The 30.06 sign reads - "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by license holder with a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun."

If there's no 30.07 sign, would this mean that you could open carry into that same establishment ? The gun is no longer concealed.
Or you could enter with a partially visible handgun - with say part of the grip or muzzle showing.

loktite
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 440
Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:13 pm

Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07

#3

Post by loktite »

Yes, you *could* enter said establishment open carrying. You'll most likely be told by employee/management ( or police called by aforementioned )that no guns are allowed, and will be required to immediately leave. I believe the majority of us here would suggest that you simply take your business elsewhere.
NRA Endowment Member
User avatar

ScottDLS
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 6
Posts: 5052
Joined: Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:04 am
Location: DFW Area, TX

Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07

#4

Post by ScottDLS »

And if you do enter open carrying and are told "you can't wear that in here", that will mean that you are for eternity banned from carrying on any property owned by that store, or any store with any shareholders in common with that store, even if you are later told that it's OK by the board of directors via a shareholder resolution...and public stockholder vote. You will be placed in FBI and TX DPS "rap back" system and your membership to Costco will be canceled for cause and your picture posted at the Post Office....and you will never be able to get a DoD security clearance or work at a refinery or chemical plant... and your CDL and TWIC will be revoked....

...or so I've heard. :shock:
4/13/1996 Completed CHL Class, 4/16/1996 Fingerprints, Affidavits, and Application Mailed, 10/4/1996 Received CHL, renewed 1998, 2002, 2006, 2011, 2016...). "ATF... Uhhh...heh...heh....Alcohol, tobacco, and GUNS!! Cool!!!!"

Soccerdad1995
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 12
Posts: 4337
Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:03 pm

Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07

#5

Post by Soccerdad1995 »

ScottDLS wrote:And if you do enter open carrying and are told "you can't wear that in here", that will mean that you are for eternity banned from carrying on any property owned by that store, or any store with any shareholders in common with that store, even if you are later told that it's OK by the board of directors via a shareholder resolution...and public stockholder vote. You will be placed in FBI and TX DPS "rap back" system and your membership to Costco will be canceled for cause and your picture posted at the Post Office....and you will never be able to get a DoD security clearance or work at a refinery or chemical plant... and your CDL and TWIC will be revoked....

...or so I've heard. :shock:
Don't forget that you may also have to TAKE THE RIDE!!!!!! even if you beat the rap.

Dreamer42
Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 108
Joined: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:39 pm

Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07

#6

Post by Dreamer42 »

I have to disagree with the "take a ride" statement. If we are a society of laws, and we agree words mean what they say - these signs posted are Texas law created by our elected officials - and hence mean exactly what is intended and no more, then I see no reason why you can't legally OC. Might they ask you to leave? Of course. But you would certainly be legal OCing and I doubt you'd be harassed by LEO.
User avatar

mojo84
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 4
Posts: 9043
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:07 pm
Location: Boerne, TX (Kendall County)

Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07

#7

Post by mojo84 »

ScottDLS wrote:And if you do enter open carrying and are told "you can't wear that in here", that will mean that you are for eternity banned from carrying on any property owned by that store, or any store with any shareholders in common with that store, even if you are later told that it's OK by the board of directors via a shareholder resolution...and public stockholder vote. You will be placed in FBI and TX DPS "rap back" system and your membership to Costco will be canceled for cause and your picture posted at the Post Office....and you will never be able to get a DoD security clearance or work at a refinery or chemical plant... and your CDL and TWIC will be revoked....

...or so I've heard. :shock:
This is ridiculous and old!
Note: Me sharing a link and information published by others does not constitute my endorsement, agreement, disagreement, my opinion or publishing by me. If you do not like what is contained at a link I share, take it up with the author or publisher of the content.
User avatar

ScottDLS
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 6
Posts: 5052
Joined: Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:04 am
Location: DFW Area, TX

Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07

#8

Post by ScottDLS »

mojo84 wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:And if you do enter open carrying and are told "you can't wear that in here", that will mean that you are for eternity banned from carrying on any property owned by that store, or any store with any shareholders in common with that store, even if you are later told that it's OK by the board of directors via a shareholder resolution...and public stockholder vote. You will be placed in FBI and TX DPS "rap back" system and your membership to Costco will be canceled for cause and your picture posted at the Post Office....and you will never be able to get a DoD security clearance or work at a refinery or chemical plant... and your CDL and TWIC will be revoked....

...or so I've heard. :shock:
This is ridiculous and old!
Yet we see it repeated....(at least the first line) regularly. :???:
4/13/1996 Completed CHL Class, 4/16/1996 Fingerprints, Affidavits, and Application Mailed, 10/4/1996 Received CHL, renewed 1998, 2002, 2006, 2011, 2016...). "ATF... Uhhh...heh...heh....Alcohol, tobacco, and GUNS!! Cool!!!!"
User avatar

ScottDLS
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 6
Posts: 5052
Joined: Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:04 am
Location: DFW Area, TX

Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07

#9

Post by ScottDLS »

And to be fair the the original question. YES you can legally OPEN carry into a business with only a 30.06 sign, until the owner or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner informs you orally, or via specific written communication, that you cannot.
4/13/1996 Completed CHL Class, 4/16/1996 Fingerprints, Affidavits, and Application Mailed, 10/4/1996 Received CHL, renewed 1998, 2002, 2006, 2011, 2016...). "ATF... Uhhh...heh...heh....Alcohol, tobacco, and GUNS!! Cool!!!!"
User avatar

KLB
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 821
Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:57 am
Location: San Antonio

Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07

#10

Post by KLB »

What one can arguably get away with and what is a good idea are seldom the same thing.

Peaces
Junior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 5
Joined: Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:39 pm

Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07

#11

Post by Peaces »

Maybe I am just naive but would just abide by what isposted and carry in concealed.

rexmitchell
Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 105
Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:43 pm

Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07

#12

Post by rexmitchell »

Peaces wrote:Maybe I am just naive but would just abide by what isposted and carry in concealed.
So intentionally ignore the sign?
User avatar

mojo84
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 4
Posts: 9043
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:07 pm
Location: Boerne, TX (Kendall County)

Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07

#13

Post by mojo84 »

Peaces wrote:Maybe I am just naive but would just abide by what isposted and carry in concealed.
You may want to refresh your understanding of the meaning of the signs. ;-)
Note: Me sharing a link and information published by others does not constitute my endorsement, agreement, disagreement, my opinion or publishing by me. If you do not like what is contained at a link I share, take it up with the author or publisher of the content.

Peaces
Junior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 5
Joined: Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:39 pm

Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07

#14

Post by Peaces »

Thanks for setting me straight. I thought 30.06 allowed for conceal. I was wrong.

Soccerdad1995
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 12
Posts: 4337
Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:03 pm

Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07

#15

Post by Soccerdad1995 »

KLB wrote:What one can arguably get away with and what is a good idea are seldom the same thing.
:iagree:

You should not try to carry concealed because that would be wrong, even if you could get away with it.

Just make sure that a part of your gun is not concealed when you carry past this sign.
Post Reply

Return to “General Texas CHL Discussion”