Wal-Mart employee refused LTC as ID?

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Re: Wal-Mart employee refused LTC as ID?

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Post by bblhd672 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:41 pm

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... BC.506.htm
BUSINESS AND COMMERCE CODE
TITLE 11. PERSONAL IDENTITY INFORMATION
SUBTITLE A. IDENTIFYING INFORMATION
Chapter 506, consisting of Secs. 506.001, was added by Acts 2015, 84th Leg., R.S., Ch. 794 (H.B. 2739), Sec. 1.
For another Chapter 506, consisting of Secs. 506.001 to 506.006, added by Acts 2015, 84th Leg., R.S., Ch. 953 (S.B. 1213), Sec. 1, see Sec. 506.001 et seq., post.

CHAPTER 506. CONCEALED HANDGUN LICENSES AS VALID FORMS OF PERSONAL IDENTIFICATION
Sec. 506.001. CONCEALED HANDGUN LICENSE AS VALID PROOF OF IDENTIFICATION. (a) A person may not deny the holder of a concealed handgun license issued under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, access to goods, services, or facilities, except as provided by Section 521.460, Transportation Code, or in regard to the operation of a motor vehicle, because the holder has or presents a concealed handgun license rather than a driver's license or other acceptable form of personal identification.
(b) This section does not affect:
(1) the requirement under Section 411.205, Government Code, that a person subject to that section present a driver's license or identification certificate in addition to a concealed handgun license; or
(2) the types of identification required under federal law to access airport premises or pass through airport security.
Added by Acts 2015, 84th Leg., R.S., Ch. 794 (H.B. 2739), Sec. 1, eff. September 1, 2015.


I haven't been able to find anything about penalties to business for refusing LTC as acceptable ID.
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Post by LucasMcCain » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:17 pm

I can't find anything about fines either. I don't really want to have fines levied for this sort of thing, but it would be a good motivating factor when speaking to management. It lets you come off as just looking out for their best interest. "I just wanted to let you know about it, because the store could be subject to fines for this, and I would hate to see that happen to y'all." That sort of thing.
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Post by gljjt » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:31 pm

It is state law, but I wouldn't take it out on the cashier (not saying the OP did). The store is responsible for training them. It's a management issue not an employee issue. I wouldn't expect an hourly clerk to know every law related to ID. Even if storr policy is wrong, I would anticipate the employee following the policy. They don't know if the customer is right or the store is right. If the store has a policy that says no to a LTC as an ID anything more than politely informing the cashier as an FYI is unfair to the employee. Take it offline with the manager. Just my opinion.

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Post by LucasMcCain » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:43 pm

gljjt wrote:It is state law, but I wouldn't take it out on the cashier (not saying the OP did). The store is responsible for training them. It's a management issue not an employee issue. I wouldn't expect an hourly clerk to know every law related to ID. Even if storr policy is wrong, I would anticipate the employee following the policy. They don't know if the customer is right or the store is right. If the store has a policy that says no to a LTC as an ID anything more than politely informing the cashier as an FYI is unfair to the employee. Take it offline with the manager. Just my opinion.
Absolutely. I got next to no training when working as a cashier. It's definitely a management issue. Most of the time, if you bring something like this up politely and in the right context, management will thank you, check it out after you leave, and then train their people.
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Post by WinoVeritas » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:50 pm

Incorrect comment on DL/LTC/CHL age being shown.
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Post by bblhd672 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:53 pm

gljjt wrote:It is state law, but I wouldn't take it out on the cashier (not saying the OP did). The store is responsible for training them. It's a management issue not an employee issue. I wouldn't expect an hourly clerk to know every law related to ID. Even if store policy is wrong, I would anticipate the employee following the policy. They don't know if the customer is right or the store is right. If the store has a policy that says no to a LTC as an ID anything more than politely informing the cashier as an FYI is unfair to the employee. Take it offline with the manager. Just my opinion.
You're right. Taking it up with the manager can also reveal whether it is a real policy that needs to be addressed, or just one instituted by an anti-gun cashier with an agenda.
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Post by bblhd672 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:54 pm

WinoVeritas wrote:No brainer from my POV - DL has birth date in bold - CHL/LTC does not show birth date. While both acceptable ID, both are not when age is in question.
My LTC has date of birth printed on it. No idea if the old CHL has DOB printed on it.
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Post by WinoVeritas » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:56 pm

bblhd672 wrote:
WinoVeritas wrote:No brainer from my POV - DL has birth date in bold - CHL/LTC does not show birth date. While both acceptable ID, both are not when age is in question.
My LTC has date of birth printed on it. No idea if the old CHL has DOB printed on it.
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Post by WTR » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:04 pm

CHL does also.

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Post by mojo84 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:32 pm

If this is the biggest problem of the day, I would consider myself fortunate and move on.
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Post by glock27 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:58 pm

I wouldnt give it much thought coming from a walmart employee.

You are probably better off finding a fast food drive thru worker with more knowledge
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Post by SRO1911 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:44 pm

Ran in to similar at a pearson-vue test center when I went in for my NREMT. 2 forms of ID, I hand her DL and LTC. GIrl hands me the LTC back and tells me she can't take it, and I can't "have that here".
I tell her that I saw they were posted on 3006.com, and that if I had any other choice in facilities I wouldnt be there.
She was however happy to take a bank card - no picture, no I.D. info beyond name (which does NOT exactly match my ID)

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Post by C-dub » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:07 pm

bblhd672 wrote:
WinoVeritas wrote:No brainer from my POV - DL has birth date in bold - CHL/LTC does not show birth date. While both acceptable ID, both are not when age is in question.
My LTC has date of birth printed on it. No idea if the old CHL has DOB printed on it.
It does. I don't renew until next year to get my LTC, so I still have my CHL.
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Post by imkopaka » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:02 pm

Thanks for the responses, everyone. I think I will talk to the manager at some point, but I will leave names out of it. No reason to put her on the spot. I do not believe it was something she made up, though. She mentioned in passing that she also has a CHL, so I doubt it was an anti-gun thing. It was either a misunderstanding on her part, a bad policy on the manager's part, or no one updated the store's training when this law came into effect. Not worth getting this employee in trouble for any of those reasons.
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Post by rotor » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:48 am

imkopaka wrote:Thanks for the responses, everyone. I think I will talk to the manager at some point, but I will leave names out of it. No reason to put her on the spot. I do not believe it was something she made up, though. She mentioned in passing that she also has a CHL, so I doubt it was an anti-gun thing. It was either a misunderstanding on her part, a bad policy on the manager's part, or no one updated the store's training when this law came into effect. Not worth getting this employee in trouble for any of those reasons.
This is a good response. I personally don't like people to know I have a LTC. Right now that is the only thing I have that says veteran but I am going to add it to my DL. Obviously I rarely OC.

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