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Re: 147th Annual NRA Meeting in Dallas

Postby rotor » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:52 pm

strogg wrote:
rotor wrote:Do you know for a certainty that insurance companies are doing that? Have you seen an insurance policy that says that only people with LTC can not carry at a gun show? Will the insurance company cover if someone illegally (not a LTC holder) carries and there is a ND?


I honestly don't know for certain about the insurance thing. More speculation, but from what I've been reading around the interwebs, most likely fact than fiction. I haven't found any concrete evidence pointing one way or the other, though. Upon rereading my post, I realize that I didn't actually say what I intended to say. My apologies. Let me rephrase the point I was trying to make: insurance companies may want event organizers and venues to do their best in making sure no negligent discharges occur at a gun show that the insurance payor is covering. That best effort may certainly involve a no-loaded-firearms policy at the event. Lifting that requirement may end up costing the organizers and/or the venue more money than they can spend, which is why many gun shows have the no-loaded-firearms policy. You can thank the idiots who NDed in gun shows nationwide for that.

In the case of the NRAAM, I'd be surprised if there there is a no-carry policy. Since this is more of a convention than it is a gun show, and with the deep pockets the NRA has, I would expect that they continue with the tradition of fully honoring 2A rights this year.

I believe it was several years ago that Charles Cotton or someone else on this forum specifically wanted proof that an insurance company was demanding 30.06/07 signs or at least no LTC carrying at a gun show. Nobody ever presented a copy of an insurance policy with such wording but there has always been this rumor that insurance companies require it. About a year ago at the gun show in Wichita Falls there was a ND and some food service workers were hit. Apparently a vendor brought a loaded shotgun into the show and that gun went off. No ND by a LTC holder. That gun show is not posted 30.06/07 but they sure check their vendors now.
I personally believe that if there was such an insurance policy a copy of it would have been posted somewhere by now. I think that this is an excuse that business uses to blame 30.06/07 signs on "forces beyond their control". I may be wrong but where is that insurance policy?
Not critical of your comments as I believe the "insurance requires it"excuse has been used for a long time.


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Re: 147th Annual NRA Meeting in Dallas

Postby mrvmax » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:10 am

ELB wrote:I plan to go on Friday mainly to see the exhibits. I went ahead and booked Thu/Fri night through the NRAAM.org website to make sure I have a place to hang my hat. Don't believe I want to drive up to Dallas and back in one day. Looks like rooms are filling up fast, and be aware that on and after March 8 there is a $100 cancellation fee for rooms booked through the nraam.org website.

I reserved rooms last May to make sure I wouldn’t have a problem but I didn’t go through NRAAM.org. I had a bunch of points on my credit card so I’m using them for the room. Hopefully nothing will come up to keep me from going.


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Re: 147th Annual NRA Meeting in Dallas

Postby Hot Dawg » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:55 am

I will be attending this year, got my rooms reserved already for a 3 day weekend, just need a good pair of walking shoes now.

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Re: 147th Annual NRA Meeting in Dallas

Postby RPBrown » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:04 am

rotor wrote:
strogg wrote:
rotor wrote:Do you know for a certainty that insurance companies are doing that? Have you seen an insurance policy that says that only people with LTC can not carry at a gun show? Will the insurance company cover if someone illegally (not a LTC holder) carries and there is a ND?


I honestly don't know for certain about the insurance thing. More speculation, but from what I've been reading around the interwebs, most likely fact than fiction. I haven't found any concrete evidence pointing one way or the other, though. Upon rereading my post, I realize that I didn't actually say what I intended to say. My apologies. Let me rephrase the point I was trying to make: insurance companies may want event organizers and venues to do their best in making sure no negligent discharges occur at a gun show that the insurance payor is covering. That best effort may certainly involve a no-loaded-firearms policy at the event. Lifting that requirement may end up costing the organizers and/or the venue more money than they can spend, which is why many gun shows have the no-loaded-firearms policy. You can thank the idiots who NDed in gun shows nationwide for that.

In the case of the NRAAM, I'd be surprised if there there is a no-carry policy. Since this is more of a convention than it is a gun show, and with the deep pockets the NRA has, I would expect that they continue with the tradition of fully honoring 2A rights this year.

I believe it was several years ago that Charles Cotton or someone else on this forum specifically wanted proof that an insurance company was demanding 30.06/07 signs or at least no LTC carrying at a gun show. Nobody ever presented a copy of an insurance policy with such wording but there has always been this rumor that insurance companies require it. About a year ago at the gun show in Wichita Falls there was a ND and some food service workers were hit. Apparently a vendor brought a loaded shotgun into the show and that gun went off. No ND by a LTC holder. That gun show is not posted 30.06/07 but they sure check their vendors now.
I personally believe that if there was such an insurance policy a copy of it would have been posted somewhere by now. I think that this is an excuse that business uses to blame 30.06/07 signs on "forces beyond their control". I may be wrong but where is that insurance policy?
Not critical of your comments as I believe the "insurance requires it"excuse has been used for a long time.


I had another business owner in my field ask me how I got by my insurance company because all of my employees CC. He stated that his insurance company would not cover him unless he posted. I told him to check his policy and if it actually stated that, I wanted a copy. He did check, not a word about it but his partner (also his wife) said thats what their agent told them. He now CC's every day as well.

To keep this thread on topic, I plan to be there at least a couple of days. Just so happens this is the same weekend that my CFO has one of her crafty conventions and I will be playing bachelor all weekend :mrgreen: . Too bad they say they don't sell firearms at the exhibit. :cryin
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Re: 147th Annual NRA Meeting in Dallas

Postby twomillenium » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:18 am

RPBrown wrote:
rotor wrote:
strogg wrote:
rotor wrote:Do you know for a certainty that insurance companies are doing that? Have you seen an insurance policy that says that only people with LTC can not carry at a gun show? Will the insurance company cover if someone illegally (not a LTC holder) carries and there is a ND?


I honestly don't know for certain about the insurance thing. More speculation, but from what I've been reading around the interwebs, most likely fact than fiction. I haven't found any concrete evidence pointing one way or the other, though. Upon rereading my post, I realize that I didn't actually say what I intended to say. My apologies. Let me rephrase the point I was trying to make: insurance companies may want event organizers and venues to do their best in making sure no negligent discharges occur at a gun show that the insurance payor is covering. That best effort may certainly involve a no-loaded-firearms policy at the event. Lifting that requirement may end up costing the organizers and/or the venue more money than they can spend, which is why many gun shows have the no-loaded-firearms policy. You can thank the idiots who NDed in gun shows nationwide for that.

In the case of the NRAAM, I'd be surprised if there there is a no-carry policy. Since this is more of a convention than it is a gun show, and with the deep pockets the NRA has, I would expect that they continue with the tradition of fully honoring 2A rights this year.

I believe it was several years ago that Charles Cotton or someone else on this forum specifically wanted proof that an insurance company was demanding 30.06/07 signs or at least no LTC carrying at a gun show. Nobody ever presented a copy of an insurance policy with such wording but there has always been this rumor that insurance companies require it. About a year ago at the gun show in Wichita Falls there was a ND and some food service workers were hit. Apparently a vendor brought a loaded shotgun into the show and that gun went off. No ND by a LTC holder. That gun show is not posted 30.06/07 but they sure check their vendors now.
I personally believe that if there was such an insurance policy a copy of it would have been posted somewhere by now. I think that this is an excuse that business uses to blame 30.06/07 signs on "forces beyond their control". I may be wrong but where is that insurance policy?
Not critical of your comments as I believe the "insurance requires it"excuse has been used for a long time.


I had another business owner in my field ask me how I got by my insurance company because all of my employees CC. He stated that his insurance company would not cover him unless he posted. I told him to check his policy and if it actually stated that, I wanted a copy. He did check, not a word about it but his partner (also his wife) said thats what their agent told them. He now CC's every day as well.

To keep this thread on topic, I plan to be there at least a couple of days. Just so happens this is the same weekend that my CFO has one of her crafty conventions and I will be playing bachelor all weekend :mrgreen: . Too bad they say they don't sell firearms at the exhibit. :cryin

I think maybe he needs to get a new agent that is either more knowledgeable or more honest or both.
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Re: 147th Annual NRA Meeting in Dallas

Postby bblhd672 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:55 am

We should have a pre-arranged meetup location at the NRA show for all the forum members who attend to get together.


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Re: 147th Annual NRA Meeting in Dallas

Postby strogg » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:17 am

bblhd672 wrote:We should have a pre-arranged meetup location at the NRA show for all the forum members who attend to get together.


That's a great idea. I suggest we have a designated spot and time for all three days. That way we can accommodate people's varying schedules throughout the weekend. So something like meet up at this tbd spot by 9:15AM on all three days. Once the group feels like everyone who will show up has shown up, they'll start walking around and perusing.

I am planning on going Friday morning myself to avoid the weekend crowd, although something tells me it'll be packed senseless regardless of which day I go anyway.

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Re: 147th Annual NRA Meeting in Dallas

Postby Flightmare » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:24 am

I've put in for that friday off from work so I'll be able to do all 3 days if I so choose. Looking forward to meeting a few new forum members there that haven't made it to the DFW area breakfasts.
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Re: 147th Annual NRA Meeting in Dallas

Postby ELB » Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:42 pm

strogg wrote:
bblhd672 wrote:We should have a pre-arranged meetup location at the NRA show for all the forum members who attend to get together.


That's a great idea. I suggest we have a designated spot and time for all three days. That way we can accommodate people's varying schedules throughout the weekend. So something like meet up at this tbd spot by 9:15AM on all three days. Once the group feels like everyone who will show up has shown up, they'll start walking around and perusing.

I am planning on going Friday morning myself to avoid the weekend crowd, although something tells me it'll be packed senseless regardless of which day I go anyway.


My plan it to be at the door when the exhibit opens on Friday and hopefully avoid some of the rush.

I vote we establish the meeting time to be shortly before opening, and the meeting place to be somewhere that has coffee! :mrgreen:

ETA: The Omni Hotel is connected to the KBH convention center by a skybridge and has a coffee shop in the lobby, along with seven other restaurants. Open to better suggestions though.
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Re: 147th Annual NRA Meeting in Dallas

Postby bblhd672 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:17 pm

ELB wrote:
strogg wrote:
bblhd672 wrote:We should have a pre-arranged meetup location at the NRA show for all the forum members who attend to get together.


That's a great idea. I suggest we have a designated spot and time for all three days. That way we can accommodate people's varying schedules throughout the weekend. So something like meet up at this tbd spot by 9:15AM on all three days. Once the group feels like everyone who will show up has shown up, they'll start walking around and perusing.

I am planning on going Friday morning myself to avoid the weekend crowd, although something tells me it'll be packed senseless regardless of which day I go anyway.


My plan it to be at the door when the exhibit opens on Friday and hopefully avoid some of the rush.

I vote we establish the meeting time to be shortly before opening, and the meeting place to be somewhere that has coffee! :mrgreen:

ETA: The Omni Hotel is connected to the KBH convention center by a skybridge and has a coffee shop in the lobby, along with seven other restaurants. Open to better suggestions though.


That's a good idea. If the hotel allows concealed and open carry that is!


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Re: 147th Annual NRA Meeting in Dallas

Postby Chemist45 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:11 pm

I'll be there, along with Mrs. Chemist.
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Too bad they say they don't sell firearms at the exhibit. :cryin

But they do sell other things!
Accessories, clothing, hunts.
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Re: 147th Annual NRA Meeting in Dallas

Postby RoyGBiv » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:18 am

I am not a lawyer. This is NOT legal advice.!
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Re: 147th Annual NRA Meeting in Dallas

Postby sbrawley » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:10 pm

ELB wrote:
strogg wrote:
bblhd672 wrote:We should have a pre-arranged meetup location at the NRA show for all the forum members who attend to get together.


That's a great idea. I suggest we have a designated spot and time for all three days. That way we can accommodate people's varying schedules throughout the weekend. So something like meet up at this tbd spot by 9:15AM on all three days. Once the group feels like everyone who will show up has shown up, they'll start walking around and perusing.

I am planning on going Friday morning myself to avoid the weekend crowd, although something tells me it'll be packed senseless regardless of which day I go anyway.


My plan it to be at the door when the exhibit opens on Friday and hopefully avoid some of the rush.

I vote we establish the meeting time to be shortly before opening, and the meeting place to be somewhere that has coffee! :mrgreen:

ETA: The Omni Hotel is connected to the KBH convention center by a skybridge and has a coffee shop in the lobby, along with seven other restaurants. Open to better suggestions though.

I second the coffee idea :thumbs2:
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Re: 147th Annual NRA Meeting in Dallas

Postby ELB » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:38 pm

Do we have a Dallas member that can reconnoiter a coffee-equipped rendezvous point?
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Re: 147th Annual NRA Meeting in Dallas

Postby carlson1 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:29 pm

Well the wonderful, great, terrific, Mayor Pro Tem Dwaine Caraway of Dallas wants the convention cancelled.
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