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Re: Obigation to correct someone?

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Darn. Y'all have all the fun. I've been carrying openly since 1/1/16. Nothing anywhere near this exciting has happened to me.
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03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:05 pm
anygunanywhere wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:11 pm
The Annoyed Man wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:18 pm Not correcting someone else's false assumption is not the same thing as misrepresenting yourself. This can lead to some truly bizarre situations.

There’s a guy who owns a gas station near my old house in Grapevine, who was absolutely convinced that I am ex-CIA. How? Because in the middle of a conversation about retirement (I was newly retired at the time), he point blank asked me if I was retired CIA, and he wasn’t being sarcastic. It was a sincere question.....like he WANTED it to be true. (This guy is a real conspiracy nut too.) I was so taken aback by the question in the moment that my initial reaction was to grin and look down at the ground. It took me about 2-3 seconds too long to collect my thoughts and to answer in the negative, simply because I couldn’t believe I’d been asked the question, and that sealed the deal. He TOTALLY jumped to the conclusion that I am a retired CIA agent. I did deny it then and there, more than once, but he wasn’t having it. It was more interesting for him to have this fantasy about my identity, that’s it was for him to believe my denials. In fact, the denials just served to strengthen his resolve, and he took it as like a wink wink nudge nudge "our little secret" kind of thing.

I eventually let the whole thing drop and quit trying to deny it. He believed what he wanted to believe. People are like that.
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He would tell us but then he would have to kill us all. So it's better we don't know.
I know, right? It was one of the most truly bizarre encounters I ever had. That dude was really weird. :lol:
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The Annoyed Man wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:04 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:05 pm
anygunanywhere wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:11 pm
The Annoyed Man wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:18 pm Not correcting someone else's false assumption is not the same thing as misrepresenting yourself. This can lead to some truly bizarre situations.

There’s a guy who owns a gas station near my old house in Grapevine, who was absolutely convinced that I am ex-CIA. How? Because in the middle of a conversation about retirement (I was newly retired at the time), he point blank asked me if I was retired CIA, and he wasn’t being sarcastic. It was a sincere question.....like he WANTED it to be true. (This guy is a real conspiracy nut too.) I was so taken aback by the question in the moment that my initial reaction was to grin and look down at the ground. It took me about 2-3 seconds too long to collect my thoughts and to answer in the negative, simply because I couldn’t believe I’d been asked the question, and that sealed the deal. He TOTALLY jumped to the conclusion that I am a retired CIA agent. I did deny it then and there, more than once, but he wasn’t having it. It was more interesting for him to have this fantasy about my identity, that’s it was for him to believe my denials. In fact, the denials just served to strengthen his resolve, and he took it as like a wink wink nudge nudge "our little secret" kind of thing.

I eventually let the whole thing drop and quit trying to deny it. He believed what he wanted to believe. People are like that.
The Annoyed Man. Double Nought Spy.
He would tell us but then he would have to kill us all. So it's better we don't know.
I know, right? It was one of the most truly bizarre encounters I ever had. That dude was really weird. :lol:
So you’re still denying that you are retired CIA? :biggrinjester:
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oljames3 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:01 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:16 pm
Flightmare wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:16 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:06 pm These stories help to support my belief that many people assume you are a cop when you are open carrying.
Mostly because it is so unusual to see people open carrying. It was almost 2 years after the law went into effect before I spotted someone "in the wild" open carrying.
I still haven't seen anyone OC.
If you don't make it to a breakfast in your area before September, the NRA is having a big meeting in Dallas. ;-)
Actually it’s in Fort Worth. :mrgreen:
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Grayling813 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:20 pm
oljames3 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:01 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:16 pm
Flightmare wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:16 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:06 pm These stories help to support my belief that many people assume you are a cop when you are open carrying.
Mostly because it is so unusual to see people open carrying. It was almost 2 years after the law went into effect before I spotted someone "in the wild" open carrying.
I still haven't seen anyone OC.
If you don't make it to a breakfast in your area before September, the NRA is having a big meeting in Dallas. ;-)
Actually it’s in Fort Worth. :mrgreen:
Dooh
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Grayling813 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:19 pm
The Annoyed Man wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:04 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:05 pm
anygunanywhere wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:11 pm
The Annoyed Man wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:18 pm Not correcting someone else's false assumption is not the same thing as misrepresenting yourself. This can lead to some truly bizarre situations.

There’s a guy who owns a gas station near my old house in Grapevine, who was absolutely convinced that I am ex-CIA. How? Because in the middle of a conversation about retirement (I was newly retired at the time), he point blank asked me if I was retired CIA, and he wasn’t being sarcastic. It was a sincere question.....like he WANTED it to be true. (This guy is a real conspiracy nut too.) I was so taken aback by the question in the moment that my initial reaction was to grin and look down at the ground. It took me about 2-3 seconds too long to collect my thoughts and to answer in the negative, simply because I couldn’t believe I’d been asked the question, and that sealed the deal. He TOTALLY jumped to the conclusion that I am a retired CIA agent. I did deny it then and there, more than once, but he wasn’t having it. It was more interesting for him to have this fantasy about my identity, that’s it was for him to believe my denials. In fact, the denials just served to strengthen his resolve, and he took it as like a wink wink nudge nudge "our little secret" kind of thing.

I eventually let the whole thing drop and quit trying to deny it. He believed what he wanted to believe. People are like that.
The Annoyed Man. Double Nought Spy.
He would tell us but then he would have to kill us all. So it's better we don't know.
I know, right? It was one of the most truly bizarre encounters I ever had. That dude was really weird. :lol:
So you’re still denying that you are retired CIA? :biggrinjester:
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Grayling813 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:20 pm
oljames3 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:01 pm
If you don't make it to a breakfast in your area before September, the NRA is having a big meeting in Dallas. ;-)
Actually it’s in Fort Worth. :mrgreen:
Isn't that just a Dallas Neighborhood? :biggrinjester:
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OneGun wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:03 pm I had a similar experience the other day, although mine was not in a bad part of town. Every morning, I stop at the Exxon station to grab my morning drink for my commute to work. When I commute to and from work, I use a OWB as it is easier to remove / put on while seated in my truck. I can't carry in our office (East Coast firm). That day, I did not put on my sport coat, so I was open carrying. I know the clerks & managers at this exxon on a first name basis. No one ever says anything about my open carrying, until this past Monday.

After I paid for my drink, I was almost out the door when a man in shorts & a Hawaiian shirt shouts at me, "who you work for?". I told him the name of the consulting firm. Then he shows me his badge. He's a deputy. Then he barks: "You have a permit?". I said yes. Do you want to see it? He says no. Then me mutters, never seen anyone but cops carry in here. I went on my way.
It would be tempting to have a chat with his Sheriff. Set him straight on OC being legal and insufficient cause, on its own, for his attitude.
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anygunanywhere wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:11 pm The Annoyed Man. Double Nought Spy.
Or former brain surgeon or retired street car conductor.
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Grayling813 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:20 pm
oljames3 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:01 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:16 pm
Flightmare wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:16 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:06 pm These stories help to support my belief that many people assume you are a cop when you are open carrying.
Mostly because it is so unusual to see people open carrying. It was almost 2 years after the law went into effect before I spotted someone "in the wild" open carrying.
I still haven't seen anyone OC.
If you don't make it to a breakfast in your area before September, the NRA is having a big meeting in Dallas. ;-)
Actually it’s in Fort Worth. :mrgreen:
For those of us down here...same thing. :biggrinjester:
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03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:41 pm
Grayling813 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:19 pm
The Annoyed Man wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:04 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:05 pm
anygunanywhere wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:11 pm
The Annoyed Man wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:18 pm Not correcting someone else's false assumption is not the same thing as misrepresenting yourself. This can lead to some truly bizarre situations.

There’s a guy who owns a gas station near my old house in Grapevine, who was absolutely convinced that I am ex-CIA. How? Because in the middle of a conversation about retirement (I was newly retired at the time), he point blank asked me if I was retired CIA, and he wasn’t being sarcastic. It was a sincere question.....like he WANTED it to be true. (This guy is a real conspiracy nut too.) I was so taken aback by the question in the moment that my initial reaction was to grin and look down at the ground. It took me about 2-3 seconds too long to collect my thoughts and to answer in the negative, simply because I couldn’t believe I’d been asked the question, and that sealed the deal. He TOTALLY jumped to the conclusion that I am a retired CIA agent. I did deny it then and there, more than once, but he wasn’t having it. It was more interesting for him to have this fantasy about my identity, that’s it was for him to believe my denials. In fact, the denials just served to strengthen his resolve, and he took it as like a wink wink nudge nudge "our little secret" kind of thing.

I eventually let the whole thing drop and quit trying to deny it. He believed what he wanted to believe. People are like that.
The Annoyed Man. Double Nought Spy.
He would tell us but then he would have to kill us all. So it's better we don't know.
I know, right? It was one of the most truly bizarre encounters I ever had. That dude was really weird. :lol:
So you’re still denying that you are retired CIA? :biggrinjester:
"rlol"
Youse guys won’t mock me when I bring U.N.C.L.E. down on your sorry butts.

CRAP! Forget I said that.
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Re: Obigation to correct someone?

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Flightmare wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:16 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:06 pm These stories help to support my belief that many people assume you are a cop when you are open carrying.
Mostly because it is so unusual to see people open carrying. It was almost 2 years after the law went into effect before I spotted someone "in the wild" open carrying.
I live in Cedar Park and since OC passed, I've seen exactly 1 person Open Carry at a Lowe's in Leander a year or so ago. I'm not at all opposed to OC, but I have never done it. I've had a CHL/LTC for 15 years now, and it just feels un-natural to me -I'd rather not be noticed carrying. Old habits I guess...

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That incident with the deputy probably best highlights why I don't fully OC. I live in the country near Vernon, some 50 miles west of Wichita Falls. This area is about as firearms-friendly as it gets, everybody and their brother owns guns, and people around here talk about guns almost as much as the weather. So, I doubt I would have any issues with any "regular" folks if I OC'd. However, even though the majority of LEOs around here are also gun-friendly, I don't want to have to deal with that one officer who decides that "regular" folks really shouldn't be OC'ing. And I'd guess it would be because that LEO might get the impression that you are trying to make people think you're an LEO. I just don't need the hassles.
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