Today in Trump's new term as President

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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

Postby philip964 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:54 pm

http://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-fire ... d=53914006

Fired FBI McCabe deputy director unknown to Jeff Sessions ordered an investigation of Sessions a year earlier to investigate his lying to Congress.

The swamp is deeper than I thought.

Sessions may be inept at his job, but he is certainly no law breaker. Maybe everyone near the top of the FBI needs to go now.

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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

Postby philip964 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:01 am

https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-jo ... on-resigns

Trump lead lawyer in Mueller probe resigns.

China Tarriffs signed today. Potential trade war, Dow down 477.

Stormy interview this Sunday.

The President under siege.


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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

Postby philip964 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:05 pm

Bolton in McMaster out.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... aster.html

I've always felt he had good things to say. Not sure why he wasn't added to Trump's group immediately.

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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

Postby carlson1 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:48 pm

I know for a fact we are better off with Trump than the other choice, but I have a question. What would we be saying if a democrat had one and their administration would have turned over like this one? It seems they either quit or get fired weekly if not daily.
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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

Postby philip964 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:57 pm

carlson1 wrote:I know for a fact we are better off with Trump than the other choice, but I have a question. What would we be saying if a democrat had one and their administration would have turned over like this one? It seems they either quit or get fired weekly if not daily.


I always felt that Trump saying "your fired" would be kind of a joke of sorts when he was in the White House.

Not so much now, I guess.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive ... ce-officer

Guccifer 2.0 apparently a Russian intelligence officer per this article. Trump guy apparently traded emails with him. Mueller taking over the investigation of Guccifer 2.0

Did I mention the Dow was down 700 points today. China reacted with a retaliatory trade thing after the market closed.


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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

Postby philip964 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:47 am

Congress passes a 1. 3 trillion dollar budget. Trump threatens to veto, maybe.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/23/trump-t ... -wall.html

Democrats are apparently very happy with the bill. Planned parenthood and sanctuary cities all funded. No money for a new border wall. Chuck remarked that they are doing better as a minority party than they did when they had the majority.


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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

Postby bblhd672 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:54 am

Trump has always been best viewed as a delay in the inevitable. Prepare accordingly.


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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

Postby philip964 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:48 pm

Trump signed spending bill citing national security.
Said won’t do it again.

Cruz supposedly didn’t vote for it last night.

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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

Postby Syntyr » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:01 pm

You can tell me that Trump is playing chess and the democrats are playing checkers or Trump is playing long ball or what ever other euphemism you wish but unfortunately I think Trump just rolled over like a good puppy dog and became part of the swamp.

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Postby thatguyoverthere » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:44 pm

Syntyr wrote:You can tell me that Trump is playing chess and the democrats are playing checkers or Trump is playing long ball or what ever other euphemism you wish but unfortunately I think Trump just rolled over like a good puppy dog and became part of the swamp.

:mad5


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"Won't do it again." That's rich.

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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

Postby Syntyr » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:54 pm

thatguyoverthere wrote:
Syntyr wrote:You can tell me that Trump is playing chess and the democrats are playing checkers or Trump is playing long ball or what ever other euphemism you wish but unfortunately I think Trump just rolled over like a good puppy dog and became part of the swamp.

:mad5


:iagree:

"Won't do it again." That's rich.


Yep. And this monster includes 1.6 bill for the border wall... Well guess what. It specifies that is only 33 miles and it can only be fencing. It can't be anything like any of the wall prototypes! But don't worry this bill does include unrestricted money for border security in the middle East. Yep that's right. Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria get border security but not the good old US of A.

Planned parenthood gets 500 million.

The Senate gave themselves a 48.8 million budget raise
The House gave themselves a 1.2 billion budget raise

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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

Postby The Annoyed Man » Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:00 am

Pelosi, Schumer declare ‘victory’ with GOP spending bill

Republicans have killed republicanism. The torch of liberty has been passed to others.....or more accurately, it has been fecklessly set aside by people who have no honor, as they chase the golden baubles of power. The two parties are now just slightly different variations of the same flavor palette.

I see this as an opportunity. I recently became the Tarrant County Libertarian Party Precinct Chair for my precinct - 3177. From now on, I am working to replace republicans (and democrats) with libertarians. We need “NOTA” added to the ballot in Texas. Maybe the LP isn’t the answer, but I’ll find out. But for dang sure, the GOP is not. It’s time of providing a distinct alternative to democrat statism has passed.

Right now, I don’t know how a republican politician can observe what happened with this budget, and how democrat leaders are crowing that it is a victory for them, and then look his constituents in the eye and say with a straight face that he did his damn job.
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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

Postby Liberty » Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:55 am

I was a Libertarian candidate for State Rep position, and I believe strongly in libertarian causes. Unfortunately I do not believe that the party is the is going to be the most effective way to press needed changes forward. The biggest obstacle is that the party does draw votes away from conservative Republican candidates. Those who tend to be liberals will never vote for a Libertarian (the exception being one issue voters who support legalization of Weed) The party has limited resources to support their candidates, The candidates are pretty much on their own for running a campaign. Texas has never voted in a statewide Libertarian candidate. Recent presidential candidates although we may agree with them philosophically, just don't inspire many of us.

The other issue is the lack of serious career-minded candidates. Libertarian minded candidates tend to go toward one of the major parties. If you want to win you have to play the odds. Another issue is that most people believe that Libertarians are far too radical. They may find that although they believe in 90% of the platform that some issues are too extreme for them. Issues such as drug legalizition, and abortion, are not widely acceptable to social conservatives. And free markets, and eliminating regulatory agencies is frightening to the even the moderate Liberal.

I think the most important thing we need to do is to educate the voter. Websites such as Reason the CATO institute do a great job but they tend to mostly preach to the choir.

I believe that the most effective thing we can do is to support libertarian minded Republican candidates. Ron Paul was the most effective officeholder we had in forwarding the libertarian cause, he was wise enough to understand that he would never get elected on a Libertarian Party ticket.

As a voter if the race is closely contested between a Republican and a Democrat. Unless the Republican is very offensive I will vote Republican. If the vote is secure for either party I will cast a vote of support for the LP candidate. I have never yet seen an election where the LP candidate was a serious contender.

When I ran for state Rep. I could not receive an endorsement or even an acknowledgment from the NRA. My single opponent was Democrat Craig Eiland, who somehow got an A rating, although he never advanced any of our 2nd amendment agenda, he just didn't get in way too much. I believe that the NRA was afraid of alienating him rather that support someone who truly believed in our cause.
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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President

Postby bblhd672 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:11 am

The Annoyed Man wrote:Pelosi, Schumer declare ‘victory’ with GOP spending bill

Republicans have killed republicanism. The torch of liberty has been passed to others.....or more accurately, it has been fecklessly set aside by people who have no honor, as they chase the golden baubles of power. The two parties are now just slightly different variations of the same flavor palette.

I see this as an opportunity. I recently became the Tarrant County Libertarian Party Precinct Chair for my precinct - 3177. From now on, I am working to replace republicans (and democrats) with libertarians. We need “NOTA” added to the ballot in Texas. Maybe the LP isn’t the answer, but I’ll find out. But for dang sure, the GOP is not. It’s time of providing a distinct alternative to democrat statism has passed.

Right now, I don’t know how a republican politician can observe what happened with this budget, and how democrat leaders are crowing that it is a victory for them, and then look his constituents in the eye and say with a straight face that he did his damn job.

:iagree:

Liberty wrote:I was a Libertarian candidate for State Rep position, and I believe strongly in libertarian causes. Unfortunately I do not believe that the party is the is going to be the most effective way to press needed changes forward. The biggest obstacle is that the party does draw votes away from conservative Republican candidates. Those who tend to be liberals will never vote for a Libertarian (the exception being one issue voters who support legalization of Weed) The party has limited resources to support their candidates, The candidates are pretty much on their own for running a campaign. Texas has never voted in a statewide Libertarian candidate. Recent presidential candidates although we may agree with them philosophically, just don't inspire many of us.

The other issue is the lack of serious career-minded candidates. Libertarian minded candidates tend to go toward one of the major parties. If you want to win you have to play the odds. Another issue is that most people believe that Libertarians are far too radical. They may find that although they believe in 90% of the platform that some issues are too extreme for them. Issues such as drug legalizition, and abortion, are not widely acceptable to social conservatives. And free markets, and eliminating regulatory agencies is frightening to the even the moderate Liberal.

I think the most important thing we need to do is to educate the voter. Websites such as Reason the CATO institute do a great job but they tend to mostly preach to the choir.

I believe that the most effective thing we can do is to support libertarian minded Republican candidates. Ron Paul was the most effective officeholder we had in forwarding the libertarian cause, he was wise enough to understand that he would never get elected on a Libertarian Party ticket.

As a voter if the race is closely contested between a Republican and a Democrat. Unless the Republican is very offensive I will vote Republican. If the vote is secure for either party I will cast a vote of support for the LP candidate. I have never yet seen an election where the LP candidate was a serious contender.

When I ran for state Rep. I could not receive an endorsement or even an acknowledgment from the NRA. My single opponent was Democrat Craig Eiland, who somehow got an A rating, although he never advanced any of our 2nd amendment agenda, he just didn't get in way too much. I believe that the NRA was afraid of alienating him rather that support someone who truly believed in our cause.

:iagree:

A Navy buddy of mine tried to talk me into voting Libertarian instead of Trump. After reviewing the policies and positions of Gary Johnson I couldn't vote for him.
In order for the Libertarian Party (or any other party to rise up) they will have to embrace traditional values, talk like Trump did to stir up his base and if elected, prove they are not D or R Lites.
I'm not going to join a party that supports abortion, making illegal drugs legal or any other position that destroys the society we want to preserve.
The Taxed Enough Already (TEA) Party was on the right track, thus why Obama administration, the Democrat party and the mainstream media did everything they could to denigrate and destroy it.

If the House and/or Senate end up in the progressive socialist party's hands after the midterm elections, the dead elephant party in both House and Senate are as much to blame as Trump. This terrible bill full of pork, restriction of liberty and expansion of government spending never should have passed through the Republican controlled chambers. Ryan, McConnell, Flake, McCain, et al are a much bigger threat to our country and cause than Trump.


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