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Hawaii: False alarm on missile strike was Trumps's fault

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Post by philip964 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:53 pm

The false alarm in Hawaii revealed an abdication of leadership by Trump - The Washington Post - www.washingtonpost.com
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It is an embarrassment for US NORAD.
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Post by pbwalker » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:21 pm

Beiruty wrote:It is an embarrassment for US NORAD.
My understanding was this failure occurred at the state level, not the Fed / PACCOM / NORAD. Apparently some joker hit the wrong button triggering the alerts. I could be mistaken as I haven't seen the news today.
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Post by strogg » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:27 pm

Makes sense. Makes total sense. It's all Trump's fault. It's always his fault. Obama Akbar.

On a serious note, I wonder if anyone ever questioned how the system works. Did the console controlled by the fat fingered employee talk back to the missile warning system, NORAD computers, and thus POTUS when the alert went out? Blah. It doesn't matter. No liberal's going to read this anyway. And even if they do, they don't care. Truth and logic is overrated.

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Post by ELB » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:16 pm

I'm willing to bet that NORAD had nothing to do with this.

The stories I've seen have conspicuously avoided reporting any responsibility for this, except for single mention of "someone hit the wrong button." The fact that accountability is unaccountably missing certainly indicates to me that it doesn't look good for the Democrats...so BLAME TRUMP.
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Post by ScottDLS » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:22 pm

strogg wrote:Makes sense. Makes total sense. It's all Trump's fault. It's always his fault. Obama Akbar.

On a serious note, I wonder if anyone ever questioned how the system works. Did the console controlled by the fat fingered employee talk back to the missile warning system, NORAD computers, and thus POTUS when the alert went out? Blah. It doesn't matter. No liberal's going to read this anyway. And even if they do, they don't care. Truth and logic is overrated.
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Post by Beiruty » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:15 pm

ELB wrote:I'm willing to bet that NORAD had nothing to do with this.

The stories I've seen have conspicuously avoided reporting any responsibility for this, except for single mention of "someone hit the wrong button." The fact that accountability is unaccountably missing certainly indicates to me that it doesn't look good for the Democrats...so BLAME TRUMP.
It is NORAD responsibility to the issue the Alert, otherwise, if it is under full control of State Agency with no Authentication and Verification for the source issuing the alert, it is does not make sense. Even under local for testing procedure, NORAD has to be in the loop. NORAD should have the ability and capability to issue the alert to any area for any US territory with no local human intervention.

A single human error should not activate the Alert System.
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Post by The Annoyed Man » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:21 pm

pbwalker wrote:
Beiruty wrote:It is an embarrassment for US NORAD.
My understanding was this failure occurred at the state level, not the Fed / PACCOM / NORAD. Apparently some joker hit the wrong button triggering the alerts. I could be mistaken as I haven't seen the news today.
You’re correct that it was done by a Hawaiian state agency, but the alert was no accident. Apparently, it required a 2-step authentication to initiate it, so the act was deliberate. But blaming Trump? That’s just weak sauce.
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Post by The Annoyed Man » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:23 pm

ScottDLS wrote:
strogg wrote:Makes sense. Makes total sense. It's all Trump's fault. It's always his fault. Obama Akbar.

On a serious note, I wonder if anyone ever questioned how the system works. Did the console controlled by the fat fingered employee talk back to the missile warning system, NORAD computers, and thus POTUS when the alert went out? Blah. It doesn't matter. No liberal's going to read this anyway. And even if they do, they don't care. Truth and logic is overrated.
No you've got it wrong. It's George W. Bush's fault. :evil2:
Actually, it’s his daughters’ fault. Oh, and his mom’s too. It is ANYbody’s fault but the fault of an incompetent democrat state government.

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Post by philip964 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:34 pm

Ok. The conspiracy side is saying that it's Trump's fault because it was a ballistic missile launch that was successfully shot down and the Feds have decided to say it was human error to avoid going to war with N. Korea.

I'm going with government incompetence.

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Post by JustSomeOldGuy » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:33 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote: You’re correct that it was done by a Hawaiian state agency, but the alert was no accident. Apparently, it required a 2-step authentication to initiate it, so the act was deliberate. But blaming Trump? That’s just weak sauce.
So somebody hit the wrong button TWICE? :evil2:
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Post by strogg » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:51 pm

JustSomeOldGuy wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote: You’re correct that it was done by a Hawaiian state agency, but the alert was no accident. Apparently, it required a 2-step authentication to initiate it, so the act was deliberate. But blaming Trump? That’s just weak sauce.
So somebody hit the wrong button TWICE? :evil2:
Maybe the user interface was absolutely garbage? It's a possibility. That reminds me of a big whoops I did one time.

I was doing some development work at my company, and I needed the authentication code to access our primary credit card processor's back end. Seeing as how it was late on a Friday afternoon, I decided to log into the processor's web portal rather than asking around, since most people have already checked out for the day. A couple pages later, I found the webpage to view the authentication code. It presented me (2-step authentication here) with a challenge question for me to access it. Fine. So I did. I got the code, put it in my password vault, and went on my merry way.

Then I learned later, buried in fine print somewhere on that web page, contained the text that effectively tells me that a new code gets generated every time I open that page. Uh oh... that code is the same one our company's production payment portal uses. I effectively cut off our customers from paying, well, anything. So all hands on deck, our team manged to fix it after I gave them the new code, but not without significant downtime. I subsequently learned that my department director did the exact same thing a few months before. Then a week after my mishap, my manager calls me while I'm on my vacation. Guess what he did? Haha.

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Post by pbwalker » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:58 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote:
pbwalker wrote:
Beiruty wrote:It is an embarrassment for US NORAD.
My understanding was this failure occurred at the state level, not the Fed / PACCOM / NORAD. Apparently some joker hit the wrong button triggering the alerts. I could be mistaken as I haven't seen the news today.
You’re correct that it was done by a Hawaiian state agency, but the alert was no accident. Apparently, it required a 2-step authentication to initiate it, so the act was deliberate. But blaming Trump? That’s just weak sauce.
Yay fake news! This morning (or last night, I forget), the news said that the state of Hawaii *just* implemented 2 factor. As if it wasn't in place already.

But yeah, blaming Trump is just some opportunistic garbage.
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Post by MaduroBU » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:18 pm

Lois Lerner's data security and records keeping activities are, however, wholly separate from Obama.


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Post by flechero » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:03 am

philip964 wrote:Ok. The conspiracy side is saying that it's Trump's fault because it was a ballistic missile launch that was successfully shot down and the Feds have decided to say it was human error to avoid going to war with N. Korea.

I'm going with government incompetence.

If it was real and we shot it down, I think Trump would be using the success story to prove he's keeping us safe! Plus, each time a test missile launched, it's widely reported worldwide...

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