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Blank Subpeona...Constitutional?

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Post by crazy2medic » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:58 pm

How can a Blank Subpoena be Constitutional? Explanation please.
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Re: Blank Subpeona...Constitutional?

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Post by bblhd672 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:31 pm

crazy2medic wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:58 pm
How can a Blank Subpoena be Constitutional? Explanation please.
When issued by a tyrannical government? Oh wait, that wouldn't be constitutional.

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Post by PriestTheRunner » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:19 pm

Ya, I'm waiting for someone to explain this.

I'm also wondering why no DA's or Police have arrested sitting Judges for writing blank Subpoena and warrants.....

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Post by lonestar144 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:15 pm

Some states might can get away with a blank Subpoena, but not in Texas. The Subpoena must be completely filled by the court or DA.

https://www.serve-now.com/resources/pro ... /texas#176

Edit: While some states may issue a blank Subpoena, it MUST be completely filled out BEFORE being served.

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Post by SewTexas » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:26 pm

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Post by Allons » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:42 pm

If we can hold people for years without a trial and sight national security, of course, blank Subpeona's are legal... This is America, land of the free, well maybe.
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Post by PriestTheRunner » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:04 pm

Allons wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:42 pm
If we can hold people for years without a trial and sight national security, of course, blank Subpeona's are legal... This is America, land of the free, well maybe.
Or illegally execute them with drones overseas without them facing trial.....

Not that my objection to that act will get me much respect from the war hawks. :banghead:


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Post by imkopaka » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:05 pm

I'm with SewTexas...What did I miss?
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Post by PriestTheRunner » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:59 am

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/mu ... -manafort/

Mueller Requests 70 Blank Subpoenas in Case Against Paul Manafort


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Post by 2farnorth » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:41 am

From the article:
Former federal prosecutor Mimi Rocah explained that it is common to issue trial subpoenas for witnesses to make sure they show up, but they are blank because Mueller doesn’t want all of the witnesses revealed at this time.
Is this so the defense won't get sufficient opportunity to research and refute the witnesses testimony? I have reason not to trust any DA/prosecutor to be "fair". Their goals are often most convictions possible, rightful or wrongful
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Re: Blank Subpeona...Constitutional?

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Post by PriestTheRunner » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:54 am

2farnorth wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:41 am
From the article:
Former federal prosecutor Mimi Rocah explained that it is common to issue trial subpoenas for witnesses to make sure they show up, but they are blank because Mueller doesn’t want all of the witnesses revealed at this time.
Is this so the defense won't get sufficient opportunity to research and refute the witnesses testimony? I have reason not to trust any DA/prosecutor to be "fair". Their goals are often most convictions possible, rightful or wrongful
Or, in my own personal experience, they issue a subpoena with the wrong date or time to defense witnesses in hopes that they will not show up the trial. Personal experience of mine....

The DA only offered my brother a plea bargain when they found out that we had communicated with the witness that the trial date they were issued was incorrect..... Gotta love Smith County...

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