Bonnie and Clyde walk into a BAR...*

[ELB]

I just ran across a new movie that's supposed to debut on Netflix at the end of March: The Highwaymen

Kevin Costner as Frank Hamer, Woody Harrelson as Maney Gault.

Kind of interesting to have Woody playing a Texas lawman, given the history.


More here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Highwaymen_(film)



*OK, I stole that from a YouTube comment. Might have been a .35 Remington Model 8, but hey, that don't swing.

[PBratton]

My father-in-law was Mr. Harellson's Land Lord back in the '70's...

[ELB]

My father-in-law was Mr. Harellson's Land Lord back in the '70's...

In other connections: I grew up in southern Indiana. After Harrelson's dad left the family, his mom eventually moved to Ohio. Woody went to college at Hanover College (about 1100 students) in Indiana, where he eventually found out what his missing dad did for a living when his name hit the news. A couple of buddies of mine from childhood also went to Hanover at approximately the same time and knew Woody Harrelson. One of those two buddies went into the movie business, and knows people who worked on The Highwaymen.

One of the other guys that my buddies (and Woody) knew at Hanover was a kid named Michael Pence, who went on to become a lawyer and politician. Wonder what ever became of him?

[dlh]

Will watch that when it comes out.
There are two versions of the ambush from what I have read in the past. Frank Hamer's version has him stepping into the roadway to ask Bonnie and Clyde to surrender. When he saw them going for their guns,instead, then he and the deputies opened up and ended it.
The other version is from the deputies themselves. They said Hamer's version was incorrect. They knew Bonnie and Clyde were ruthless and good shots so they simply waited in hiding for Bonnie and Clyde to round the bend in the road when the ambush party opened up with all they had to end the outlaws' careers.
Perhaps we will never know which version is accurate but I tend to side with the version provided by the deputies.

[crazy2medic]

Bonnie and Clyde walked in with a BAR!
There fixed it!
When my grandfather (maternal) was a boy he was walking home from school one day, Clyde Barrow pulled up beside him in a car and told him "get in I'll take you home!" My grandfather knew who he was, told me everybody knew who Clyde was! My grandfather declined Clyde's offer, Clyde told him "boy get in the car, I'll take you home" so my grandfather reluctantly got in his car, and Clyde Barrow took him home!

[oohrah]

Fascinating. My parents met at Hanover College when students there after WWII. My maternal grandparents lived in Hanover all their lives.

ETA: Just learned Woody was a Sigma Chi at Hanover. So was my Dad, I have his ring.

ETA2: My wife just told me my MIL went to school with Clyde Barrow and ll the girls were Gaga ove him.

[The Annoyed Man]

More like, they drove into a BAR....

There's a monument in Southlake, on Whites Chapel Rd, at the location of one of the last Bonnie & Clyde gang killings. They were stopped by the side of the road to rest - at that time, a dirt road out in the middle of nowhere outside of Grapevine - when they were approached on April 1, 1934, Easter Sunday, by two curious Grapevine PD motorcycle cops. They shot and killed both officers, neither of whom even drew their revolvers. The killing was the next to last murders they committed, the last one being a 60 year old constable they gunned down in Oklahoma just five days later. B&C themselves were killed just a few weeks later, on May 23, 1934.

They were bad people. As much of a civil libertarian as I am, I find it hard to gin up any sympathy for those two vicious predators. Hamer took out the trash. We should be thankful.

https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/42540

[crazy2medic]

There use to be a plaque there memorializing the murder of the officers, when they widened the road they took it down and as far as know, they never put it back up!

[J.R.@A&M]

More like, they drove into a BAR....

There's a monument in Southlake, on Whites Chapel Rd, at the location of one of the last Bonnie & Clyde gang killings. They were stopped by the side of the road to rest - at that time, a dirt road out in the middle of nowhere outside of Grapevine - when they were approached on April 1, 1934, Easter Sunday, by two curious Grapevine PD motorcycle cops. They shot and killed both officers, neither of whom even drew their revolvers. The killing was the next to last murders they committed, the last one being a 60 year old constable they gunned down in Oklahoma just five days later. B&C themselves were killed just a few weeks later, on May 23, 1934.

They were bad people. As much of a civil libertarian as I am, I find it hard to gin up any sympathy for those two vicious predators. Hamer took out the trash. We should be thankful.

https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/42540

Or perhaps, they slowed down and idled in front of a BAR.

[ELB]

Hamer had a Colt Monitor, which very much resembled the BAR but was shorter and came with a pistol grip. Colt riffed off of the original BAR to create it specifically for police departments. Hamer's Colt Monitor is at the Texas Ranger's museum.



I have read varying accounts of which gun Hamer used in the ambush: the Monitor, a Remington Model 8 in .35 caliber, and even a shotgun.

I don't know how you sort out the truth, but looks like the movie went with the Monitor.


ETA: I was going to put a picture of the Hamer Monitor from the Texas Ranger Museum here, but having technical difficulties..

[threoh8]

The book, Go Down Together, gives a lot of detail on the Barrow gang, and includes several versions of the ambush.

By the way, here's a list of weapons in the '34 Ford in which Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker were killed:
Three .30-caliber BARs
One 20-gauge Model 11 shotgun (Bonnie's)
One 10-gauge Winchester Model 1901 lever-action shotgun
One .32-caliber M1903 Colt automatic pistol
One .38 Colt Detective Special revolver (Bonnie's)
One .25-caliber Colt automatic
One .45-caliber Colt M1909 revolver
Seven .45-caliber M1911 automatic pistols
100 loaded BAR magazines
3000 rounds of assorted ammunition

They were loaded for bear.

[Daddio-on-patio]

My mother-in-laws Mom was a cousin of Bonnie. MIL grew up in Smithfield which is now part of North Richland Hills. I obtained an original, uncirculated, wanted poster of Bonnie and Clyde. An alias for Clyde listed on the back was Roy Bailey. Asked my MIL who Roy was without mentioning the poster. She said that was her Uncle Roy. I told her that Clyde used his name as an alias. She said “That explains a lot.” From what she said Uncle Roy got hassled a bit by the law.

Family connection be dang. The gang were ruthless, murdering SOB’s.

[priusron]

Their car is located at the star lie casino on the California Nevada border.

[jason812]

Hamer had a Colt Monitor, which very much resembled the BAR but was shorter and came with a pistol grip. Colt riffed off of the original BAR to create it specifically for police departments. Hamer's Colt Monitor is at the Texas Ranger's museum.

I was in there a few weeks ago killing time until I had to pick up the kids from Preschool. If anyone is passing through Waco and has a few hours to kill, it's worth the $8 admission fee.

[bblhd672]

I grew up not too far from the ambush site in north La. My grandfather went to see their bodies.