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Paladin wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:52 am The Real-World Data Show the Covid Vaccines Are Ineffective
You can clearly observe this tendency at work in the CNBC piece which claims that even though Pfizer is only 39 percent effective, it still protects against serious disease. But this is simply not true, which you can easily see if you take the trouble to look into the data put out by the Israeli government. At roughly the same time that CNBC filed its report, the Israeli Ministry of Health published a bulletin which reported on Covid cases in the country. According to their data, there were 137 serious cases in Israel of which 95 were fully vaccinated and 42 unvaccinated or partially vaccinated (see here and here). In other words, the bulk of the serious cases was comprised of those who had received their shots. If the vaccine was as effective in protecting against heavy illness as the article claims, the numbers would look completely different. The figures published by the Israeli Ministry of Health shows that the claims of Pfizer’s efficacy of protecting against serious Covid are simply untrue.

This has been confirmed by the testimony of Dr Kobi Haviv, Director of Herzog Hospital in Jerusalem. In a recent TV interview, Dr Haviv stated that the fully vaccinated people account for about 90 percent of hospitalizations. Given that less than 90 percent of the Israeli population is fully vaccinated, it would appear that the vaccination not only does not prevent you from contracting the disease, but actually increases one’s chances of becoming a serious Covid case. Observes Dr Haviv: “yes, unfortunately, the vaccine… as they say, its effectiveness is waning.” And so it is, indeed. Dr Haviv’s interview is on YouTube so you can hear the truth straight from his mouth. It will be interesting to see how long it will take for the Establishment Censors to take it down.
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RoyGBiv wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:57 am
Paladin wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:52 am The Real-World Data Show the Covid Vaccines Are Ineffective
You can clearly observe this tendency at work in the CNBC piece which claims that even though Pfizer is only 39 percent effective, it still protects against serious disease. But this is simply not true, which you can easily see if you take the trouble to look into the data put out by the Israeli government. At roughly the same time that CNBC filed its report, the Israeli Ministry of Health published a bulletin which reported on Covid cases in the country. According to their data, there were 137 serious cases in Israel of which 95 were fully vaccinated and 42 unvaccinated or partially vaccinated (see here and here). In other words, the bulk of the serious cases was comprised of those who had received their shots. If the vaccine was as effective in protecting against heavy illness as the article claims, the numbers would look completely different. The figures published by the Israeli Ministry of Health shows that the claims of Pfizer’s efficacy of protecting against serious Covid are simply untrue.

This has been confirmed by the testimony of Dr Kobi Haviv, Director of Herzog Hospital in Jerusalem. In a recent TV interview, Dr Haviv stated that the fully vaccinated people account for about 90 percent of hospitalizations. Given that less than 90 percent of the Israeli population is fully vaccinated, it would appear that the vaccination not only does not prevent you from contracting the disease, but actually increases one’s chances of becoming a serious Covid case. Observes Dr Haviv: “yes, unfortunately, the vaccine… as they say, its effectiveness is waning.” And so it is, indeed. Dr Haviv’s interview is on YouTube so you can hear the truth straight from his mouth. It will be interesting to see how long it will take for the Establishment Censors to take it down.
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If the vaccine is 95+% effective then why are Pfizer and Moderna rolling out booster shots?
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Paladin wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:28 pm
RoyGBiv wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:57 am
Paladin wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:52 am The Real-World Data Show the Covid Vaccines Are Ineffective
You can clearly observe this tendency at work in the CNBC piece which claims that even though Pfizer is only 39 percent effective, it still protects against serious disease. But this is simply not true, which you can easily see if you take the trouble to look into the data put out by the Israeli government. At roughly the same time that CNBC filed its report, the Israeli Ministry of Health published a bulletin which reported on Covid cases in the country. According to their data, there were 137 serious cases in Israel of which 95 were fully vaccinated and 42 unvaccinated or partially vaccinated (see here and here). In other words, the bulk of the serious cases was comprised of those who had received their shots. If the vaccine was as effective in protecting against heavy illness as the article claims, the numbers would look completely different. The figures published by the Israeli Ministry of Health shows that the claims of Pfizer’s efficacy of protecting against serious Covid are simply untrue.

This has been confirmed by the testimony of Dr Kobi Haviv, Director of Herzog Hospital in Jerusalem. In a recent TV interview, Dr Haviv stated that the fully vaccinated people account for about 90 percent of hospitalizations. Given that less than 90 percent of the Israeli population is fully vaccinated, it would appear that the vaccination not only does not prevent you from contracting the disease, but actually increases one’s chances of becoming a serious Covid case. Observes Dr Haviv: “yes, unfortunately, the vaccine… as they say, its effectiveness is waning.” And so it is, indeed. Dr Haviv’s interview is on YouTube so you can hear the truth straight from his mouth. It will be interesting to see how long it will take for the Establishment Censors to take it down.
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If the vaccine is 95+% effective then why are Pfizer and Moderna rolling out booster shots?
Little White lies ----> Lies ---> Bold faced lies ---> Damnable Lies ---> Statistics. :lol:

I'm not inclined to spend much time showing you the holes in this morons theories.... I'll bow out from this thread entirely now, but leave you with 2 thoughts on this...

1. In a country with ~10M people and a ~60% vaccination rate (Israel), plus however many with natural immunity following infection/recovery, the fact that they only have 137 serious cases is a testament to herd immunity (natural + vaccination).

2. The below quote discredits anything this man has to say.... Choose to believe it at your own peril. I'm done trying to discuss this topic here. Belief of this rubbish makes me want to :banghead:
Given that less than 90 percent of the Israeli population is fully vaccinated, it would appear that the vaccination not only does not prevent you from contracting the disease, but actually increases one’s chances of becoming a serious Covid case.
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RoyGBiv wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:39 pm
Where's the ignore thread button?
That would be a very useful feature on the forum.
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https://www.organiclifestylemagazine.co ... e-covid-19

Fauci holds patent on one of components of Covid.

So do we have to pay him if we get it.
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Looks like we finally have a partial admission of vaccine failure:
Dr. Fauci confirmed that "at some time in the future" everyone will likely need a booster shot for the Covid-19 vaccine due to "fading efficacy."
"Wakeup Call": Pfizer Vax Only 42% Effective Against Infection In July
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philip964 wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:09 am https://www.organiclifestylemagazine.co ... e-covid-19

Fauci holds patent on one of components of Covid.

So do we have to pay him if we get it.
excellent question
and if this seems to me its fully man made virus, so there is a man made cure/preventative anti dote
he should be charged with murder, along with gates and the lab owners that developed it.
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was just reading about this in my news brief magazine i get from nasa.
pretty darn cool 90 minutes and you know the know
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powerboatr wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 6:02 pm was just reading about this in my news brief magazine i get from nasa.
pretty darn cool 90 minutes and you know the know
That does sound interesting.
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Floridas Gov. DeSantis will be having covid patients treated with a monoclonal treatment by Regeneron for those who do not yet need to be hospitalized. Suppose to reduce hospitalization and death by about 70 percent. SOunds promising.
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The authoritarians are making the crisis even worse:

Massive Nurse Shortage Hits Houston—Weeks After 150 Unvaccinated Nurses and Hospital Workers Fired
When hospital administrators set their policy—get vaccinated or lose your job—their goal was to increase vaccination rates of hospital staff. The unintended consequence was a shortage of nurses and other hospital workers during a deadly pandemic.
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Paladin wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:35 am The authoritarians are making the crisis even worse:

Massive Nurse Shortage Hits Houston—Weeks After 150 Unvaccinated Nurses and Hospital Workers Fired
When hospital administrators set their policy—get vaccinated or lose your job—their goal was to increase vaccination rates of hospital staff. The unintended consequence was a shortage of nurses and other hospital workers during a deadly pandemic.
When all you can think about is your own petty orders aren't being followed, thinking ahead is non sequitur.
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