Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:45 pm
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Yes, Pennsford is a financial consultant that, only sees this in financial terms, is very quick to put a price on human life, and misses two key points. (1) Second and third wave infections will not be as bad as the first, due to the herd immunity provided by those who survived the first wave of infection, as well as better testing and preparedness, and the greater likelihood of new vaccines or therapeutic drugs. (2) More importantly, they ignore that the main goal of flattening the curve is to avoid overwhelming the health care system, as has happened in Wuhan, Italy, and Spain. They argue that leaders should act on economic, as opposed to medical, concerns, but ignore the reality that politicians are ultimately driven by political concerns. Trump’s initial dismissive approach changed when pictures came out of Italy showing critically ill patients on cots in tents on the sidewalks in front of hospitals. His hope of “filling the churches on Easter” dimmed when we saw patients lying on blankets on the floors of hospital hallways in Spain. Scenes like that in hospitals of American states with big Electoral College numbers would not bode well for November re-election hopes.Rob72 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:01 pmSilo-thinking. Quarantine buys time to develop treatments/vaccines, to localize hotspots so that resources may be allocated rather than having the same problem everywhere. I'm a research nurse, actively working. It helps.srothstein wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:31 pm I found this article on why we should not be trying to flatten the curve. Interesting read.
https://www.pensford.com/why-flattening ... rS7gYJ6fPE
Unrelated to COVID, one of the most unsettling things I ever witnessed was in Bangkok a bunch of years ago. Was walking around downtown when a giant rainstorm hit. The water started cresting the curbs and running into the many open shops/restaurants. Rats started pouring out of the shops and onto the sidewalks/street. Truly disturbing. I didn't see anyone get approached by any rats, but, the memory still causes me to shiver.Rafe wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:30 am Well, here's something I hadn't considered: https://www.star-telegram.com/news/coro ... 02066.html
Hungry rats swarm New Orleans streets as coronavirus closes restaurants, bars
"With French Quarter bars and restaurants shuttered by a coronavirus lockdown, rats emboldened by hunger are swarming deserted New Orleans streets at night, WHTM reports."
In China, they would have gotten out a knife and fork and starting eating them alive.RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:04 amUnrelated to COVID, one of the most unsettling things I ever witnessed was in Bangkok a bunch of years ago. Was walking around downtown when a giant rainstorm hit. The water started cresting the curbs and running into the many open shops/restaurants. Rats started pouring out of the shops and onto the sidewalks/street. Truly disturbing. I didn't see anyone get approached by any rats, but, the memory still causes me to shiver.Rafe wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:30 am Well, here's something I hadn't considered: https://www.star-telegram.com/news/coro ... 02066.html
Hungry rats swarm New Orleans streets as coronavirus closes restaurants, bars
"With French Quarter bars and restaurants shuttered by a coronavirus lockdown, rats emboldened by hunger are swarming deserted New Orleans streets at night, WHTM reports."
March 30, 2020 10:01 am. 741,030 cases worldwide with 35,114 dead. 143,532 infected US, 2,572 dead 4,865 recovered. 97,689 Italy with 10,779 dead. 82,198 China (is anyone believing this). New York state has 60,679 with 1,026 deaths. Louisiana has 3,540 with 151deaths. Texas has 2,306 with 34 deaths. Houston 929 with 8 deaths.philip964 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:59 amMarch 29, 2020 10:48 am. 684,652 cases worldwide with 32,113 dead. 124,763 infected US, 2,187 dead. 92,472 Italy with (no data) dead. 82,120 China (is anyone believing this). New York state has 53,520 with 834 deaths. Louisiana has 3,315 with 137 deaths. Texas has 2,535 with 34 deaths. Houston 810 with 6 deaths.philip964 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:01 pmMarch 28, 2020 12:48 pm. 640,589 cases worldwide with 29,848 dead. 112,458 infected US, 1,841 dead. 92,472 Italy with10,023 dead. 81,999 China (is anyone believing this). New York state has 52,318 with 728 deaths. Louisiana has 2,746 with 119 deaths. Texas has 2,026 with 26 deaths. Houston 543 with 4 deaths.philip964 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:58 amMarch 27, 2020 am. 553,244 cases worldwide with 25,935 dead. 86,012 infected US, 1,301 dead. 80,589 Italy with 8,215 dead. 81,897 China (is anyone believing this). New York state has 39,140 with 461 deaths. Louisiana has 2,304 with 83 deaths. Texas has 1,353 with 17 deaths. Houston 461 with 3 deaths.philip964 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:45 amMarch 26, 2020 am. 492,603 cases worldwide with 22,184 dead. 69,210 infected US, 1,046 dead. 74,386 Italy with 7,503 dead. 81,782 China (is anyone believing this). New York state has 33,006 with 366 deaths. Louisiana has 1,795 with 65 deaths. Texas has 1,353 with 17 deaths. Houston 372 with 2 deaths.philip964 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:07 pmMarch 25, 2020 pm- 468,523 cases worldwide with 21,192 dead. 66,132 infected US, 947 dead. 74,386 Italy with 7,503 dead. 81,667 China (is anyone believing this). New York state has 33,006 with 366 deaths. Louisiana has 1,795 with 65 deaths. Texas has 1,289 with 16 deaths. Houston 371 with 2 deaths.philip964 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:44 amMarch 24, 2020 am- 396,249 cases worldwide with 17,252 dead. 46,805 infected US, 593 dead. 63,927 Italy with 6,077 dead. 81,591 China (is anyone believing this). Texas has 807 with 9 deaths. Houston 199 with 2 Deaths.philip964 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:08 amMarch 23, 2020- 354,677 cases worldwide with 15430 dead. 35,345 infected US, 473 dead. 59,138 Italy with 5,476 dead. 81,496 China. Texas has 674 with 8 deaths. Houston 166 with 2 deaths.philip964 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:11 pmMarch 22, 2020- 318,662 world, 13,672 dead. 27,004 infected US,
347 dead. 53,578 Italy, 4,825 dead. 81,397 China. Texas has 557 with 5 deaths. Houston at 154.
I have noticed the family outings myself. I repair A/C so I have to be out and about to keep people cooling. I stopped at Lowes to pick up a few filters. A/C supply houses are making it hard to buy from. I saw many couples and a few entire families in there wondering around. Went to Walmart to get a hose. Lady in front of me had three kids with her. Saw many couples shopping for lawn and garden supplies. I get it. People get bored sitting at home but it reminds me of "ice days" when the roads are bad early in the morning so people stay home from work. By 10 AM they are all out shopping and getting food. Too dangerous to work but not to dangerous to go shopping. Human nature at work.striker55 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:23 pm People don't get it, whole families going to Walmart, mom dad and kids. Just one adult should go. Galveston beaches being closed because people aren't smart enough to stay home. NYC kids out playing basketball. Houston area has 997 cases when just a few days ago the number was around 300. Stay home!