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ADDITIONAL INFO: He was a white, middle-aged guy in jeans, t-shirt, and biker-type "do rag" instead of a hat. Kind of a short beard. Not "clean cut", but didn't look out of place for the area, either.

He was giving up the element of surprise, subjecting himself to a gun grab attempt, and he was preventing any potential crime in the first place.

How much of one versus the other? Who knows. The only thing I know to be incorrect is if you say that any of the three factors above has a zero probability. Personally, I will continue to CC most of the time, and OC when it is more comfortable, or I just feel like doing so.

And no, OC is not "dumb", and I don't OC "for attention". It would really be nice if we could stop attacking people who's carry choices don't mirror our own.

K.Mooneyham wrote:ADDITIONAL INFO: He was a white, middle-aged guy in jeans, t-shirt, and biker-type "do rag" instead of a hat. Kind of a short beard. Not "clean cut", but didn't look out of place for the area, either.

I on the other hand, when I OC, have----neck tats, "Bloods" style do rag, unwashed long white t-shirt, and stinky raggedy jeans, and a HiPoint 9. I carry a Lorcin .25 as a BUG. Shoved down the front of my jeans, of course.

No stats. Just my opinion.

o b juan wrote:In my opinion He was giving up the element of surprise...
In my opinion He would be the first one targeted by bad guys...
In my opinion He doesn't have the training in marksmanship and weapon retention that LEO's have...
In my opinion He was showing off and saying "Look at me"....

Have no problem agreeing with any of the above statement

Fixed it for you.

soccer dad
Thanks but you actually misquoted.

1911 10MM wrote:

o b juan wrote:He was giving up the element of surprise...
He would be the first one targeted by bad guys...
He doesn't have the training in marksmanship and weapon retention that LEO's have...
He was showing off and saying "Look at me"....

Have no problem agreeing with any of the above statement

So you agree with baseless information? Please provide statistics that show any of the above opinions are actually facts.

I think the OP was being facetious or is it ferocious ?

Oldgringo wrote:

1911 10MM wrote:

o b juan wrote:He was giving up the element of surprise...
He would be the first one targeted by bad guys...
He doesn't have the training in marksmanship and weapon retention that LEO's have...
He was showing off and saying "Look at me"....

Have no problem agreeing with any of the above statement

So you agree with baseless information? Please provide statistics that show any of the above opinions are actually facts.

I think the OP was being facetious or is it ferocious ?

I know the OP was but my question was to O B Juan who appeared to be agreeing with the statements regardless of the intent of the original poster.

"Have no problem agreeing with any of the above statement"

That was what I posted