Locked & Loaded: Kids and Guns in America / MSNBC, Sunday PM

[Revet]

I found this on the cable guide--don't know anything about it other than a press release on a web site titled "Inside Cable News." (I have not provided a link because I do not know what other content there may be on that site).

The MSNBC statement referred first to the recent mass shootings and our "gun culture," with their observation that it is "attracting a new and younger generation." I wouldn't look forward to this broadcast being either accurate or fair.

Verify the broadcast time for your area: MSNBC TV (cable) Sunday 3/22 9PM CT.

[seamusTX]

Here's a press release about it:

MSNBC PREMIERES “LOCKED AND LOADED: KIDS AND GUNS IN AMERICA” MARCH 22nd AT 10 P.M. ET

NEW YORK – March 18, 2009- From Alabama to Germany, mass shootings have been the alarming subject of the latest news headlines. The United States is the most heavily armed country in the world, and now our nation’s gun culture is attracting a new and younger generation. MSNBC explores that young gun culture in the world premiere of Firecracker Film’s “Locked and Loaded: Kids and Guns in America,” Sunday at 10 p.m. ET.

“Locked and Loaded: Kids and Guns in America” profiles two American families, one from Massachusetts, the other near Washington, D.C., who believe that guns are as much a part of growing up as family dinners and apple pie. One of the parents in the film proudly states of his young son: “He’s the first 5-year old in Burgess Elementary School System that’s ever shot an M16.” The documentary also features an interview with gun show operator and former Pelham, Massachusetts Chief of Police, Ed Fleury, who was recently indicted after an 8-year-old at one of his gun shows tried to shoot a machine gun, lost control of it and fatally shot himself in the head.

The Second Amendment explicitly grants the right to bear arms, and some 60 million Americans now take advantage of that right. In America, you can buy a firearm at the age of 18, three years before you can buy a drink. However, children can fire a weapon at any age, as long as they are accompanied by a parent. The youngest person to receive a gun license in the U.S. was just 11 months old. And, despite an average of one child dying from a gunshot every 3 hours, American gun lovers continue to arm themselves and at younger and younger ages.

Michael Rubin is vice president, long-form programming, MSNBC. Scott Hooker is senior executive producer, documentary production and development, MSNBC. Timothy E. Smith is senior producer, MSNBC.

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I think I know what to expect.

- Jim

[Purplehood]

Here's a press release about it:

MSNBC PREMIERES “LOCKED AND LOADED: KIDS AND GUNS IN AMERICA” MARCH 22nd AT 10 P.M. ET

NEW YORK – March 18, 2009- From Alabama to Germany, mass shootings have been the alarming subject of the latest news headlines. The United States is the most heavily armed country in the world, and now our nation’s gun culture is attracting a new and younger generation. MSNBC explores that young gun culture in the world premiere of Firecracker Film’s “Locked and Loaded: Kids and Guns in America,” Sunday at 10 p.m. ET.

“Locked and Loaded: Kids and Guns in America” profiles two American families, one from Massachusetts, the other near Washington, D.C., who believe that guns are as much a part of growing up as family dinners and apple pie. One of the parents in the film proudly states of his young son: “He’s the first 5-year old in Burgess Elementary School System that’s ever shot an M16.” The documentary also features an interview with gun show operator and former Pelham, Massachusetts Chief of Police, Ed Fleury, who was recently indicted after an 8-year-old at one of his gun shows tried to shoot a machine gun, lost control of it and fatally shot himself in the head.

The Second Amendment explicitly grants the right to bear arms, and some 60 million Americans now take advantage of that right. In America, you can buy a firearm at the age of 18, three years before you can buy a drink. However, children can fire a weapon at any age, as long as they are accompanied by a parent. The youngest person to receive a gun license in the U.S. was just 11 months old. And, despite an average of one child dying from a gunshot every 3 hours, American gun lovers continue to arm themselves and at younger and younger ages.

Michael Rubin is vice president, long-form programming, MSNBC. Scott Hooker is senior executive producer, documentary production and development, MSNBC. Timothy E. Smith is senior producer, MSNBC.

http://insidecablenews.wordpress.com/20 ... es-031809/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think I know what to expect.

- Jim

What exactly is a "gun license"?

[seamusTX]

What they are talking about is an incident that took place in Illinois a couple of years ago. In Illinois, you need a Firearm Owner's ID (FOID) to so much a touch a firearm legally. A guy got one for his newborn baby, and there was a brief kerfuffle about it on the TV news.

In many states, you need some kind of state permission to buy or own a firearm. In some, in the case of handguns, they specifically call it a pistol license.

- Jim

[Oldgringo]

We have DISH TV with beaucoup channels. If MSNBC was not one of them, that would be okay...if you get my drift.

[arod757]

And, despite an average of one child dying from a gunshot every 3 hours, American gun lovers continue to arm themselves and at younger and younger ages.

I don't think I've actually heard that before. I'm assuming little wannabe gangbangers under 18 that get blown away by a homeowner during a burglary or kill each other are included in that statistic?

[Purplehood]

And, despite an average of one child dying from a gunshot every 3 hours, American gun lovers continue to arm themselves and at younger and younger ages.

I don't think I've actually heard that before. I'm assuming little wannabe gangbangers under 18 that get blown away by a homeowner during a burglary or kill each other are included in that statistic?

That would be a correct assumption.

[Oldgringo]

And, despite an average of one child dying from a gunshot every 3 hours, American gun lovers continue to arm themselves and at younger and younger ages.

I don't think I've actually heard that before. I'm assuming little wannabe gangbangers under 18 that get blown away by a homeowner during a burglary or kill each other are included in that statistic?

That would be a correct assumption.

If MSNBC does their usual biased liberal {fill in the _______}, any point that the youths were killed doing illegal and/or bad things will not be stated. Like I said above, If our TV didn't receive MSNBC, that would be okay.

[Purplehood]

I have a TV for two reasons:

My kid watches when he visits.
I can play movies on it.

Other than that, it gets very little work.

[Liberty]

If MSNBC does their usual biased liberal {fill in the _______}, any point that the youths were killed doing illegal and/or bad things will not be stated. Like I said above, If our TV didn't receive MSNBC, that would be okay.

I put a parental lock on it. MSNBC is nothing but political porn. Even accidently turning it on gives me tremendous heartburn.

[seamusTX]

And, despite an average of one child dying from a gunshot every 3 hours,...

I don't think I've actually heard that before. I'm assuming little wannabe gangbangers under 18 that get blown away by a homeowner during a burglary or kill each other are included in that statistic?

This is an old, fake Brady statistic.

The number of "children and teens" killed by firearms is inflated by including people up to age 19. Most of the deaths are in the later teen years and related to criminal activity.

Here is a fact sheet from the NRA:

Lies about children and guns. Brady Campaign and Senator Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) have claimed that 12 children die from gun accidents every day, and 2008 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has claimed that 13 children are killed with guns every day. The HELP (Handgun Epidemic Lowering Plan) Network (which is dedicated to “changing society’s attitude toward guns so that it becomes socially unacceptable for private citizens to have handguns”) put the figure at “an average of 9 children” daily. Other “gun control” advocates have varyingly claimed 14 per day (or 5,000 yearly or one every 90 seconds). Some count anyone under the age of 24 as a “child,” to get even higher numbers.9 Anti-gunners add the relatively small number of firearm-related deaths among children to the much larger number of deaths among juveniles and young adults, and dishonestly call the total “children.” In fact, on average there is just under one firearm-related death among children per day, including one accidental death every 5.8 days.

“Gun control” supporters point to a study claiming that so-called “Child Access Prevention” (CAP) laws (which make it a crime, under some circumstances, to leave a gun accessible to a child who obtains and misuses it), imposed in 12 states between 1989-1993, decreased fatal firearm accidents among children.10 The study was produced by people from the Harborview Injury Prevention and Research Center, a group active in the HELP Network. The study’s flaws: Firearm accident deaths among children began declining in the mid-1970s, not in 1989, when “CAP” laws were first imposed. Also, such accidents have decreased nationwide, not only in “CAP” states. And, also in 1989, NRA’s Eddie Eagle GunSafe Program was introduced nationwide.

1. See BATFE, “Annual Firearm Manufacturers and Export Reports” ( http://www.atf.gov/firearms/stats/index.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;).

2. FBI, Crime in the United States 2006 (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) and BJS (http://bjsdata.ojp.usdoj.gov/dataonline/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;).

3. See http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/wisqars" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; or http://www.wonder.cdc.gov/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; .

4. Available at http://www.nsc.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; .

5. See http://www.nraila.org/Issues" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; .

6. For more on NRA training programs, visit http://www.nrahq.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (click “Education and Training”) or call 703-267-1500.

7. For more on the Eddie Eagle program, visit http://www.nrahq.org/safety/eddie/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; or call 800-231-0752.

8. Pete Shields, quoted in The New Yorker, “A Reporter At Large: Handguns,” July 26, 1976.

9. NRA-ILA “Not 12 Per Day” fact sheet, http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=21" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; .

10. Journal of the American Medical Association, Oct. 1, 1997.

Posted: 10/19/2007 12:00:00 AM

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Whenever this issue is discussed, we need to point out that most of these "children and teens" were killed by people who could not legally possess firearms, because they were felons, underage, or had a firearm in a place where weapons are prohibited (including entire states), or a stolen weapon.

Total justifiable homicides are fewer than 500 a year in the U.S., not all minors, and half of those by police officers. It is not a significant statistic.

- Jim

[Gunsmom]

On that CDC website, you can run the numbers for causes of death at various ages. The number of deaths in children ages <1 year through age 12 or 13 is quite small. If you look at "children" in the older age groups, the statistics change drastically.

It mentions parents allowing children to shoot who are too young to buy a drink. It neglects to mention that "children" who can legally buy guns can also join the armed services, where some of them spend a lot of time shooting guns.

[TexasAggie]

Why don't they do a REAL story about how the freeloaders in Mexico are sucking us dry and the guns THEY have are mostly stolen and involve the drug cartels....not to mention their corrupt joke of a government (although I actually have some respect for Calderon)??

I hate that lame channel.

[Revet]

MSNBC has posted video previews for tonight's broadcast:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp ... 7#29804317

[kd5zex]

Typical anti drivel, only this time it seems to be narrated by and Englishman who mentions the cyclic rate of fire, "600 rounds per minute" , for each firearm featured.