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Post by RPB » Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:56 pm

Concealed handguns mean less safety
http://www.dailytexanonline.com/content ... ess-safety" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Paragraph 1 is opinionated rhetoric
"increase the chances and severity of suicide "
Notwithstanding the falsity of facts, I must ask how suicide can be more severe or less severe?

I posted a couple of comments as John (My dad's name; in memory of my dad)

I kept that "other University" document confidential as to origin. But, thank you for it (you know who you are)
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Post by AndyC » Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:59 pm

Excellent - I've joined the fray as well :)
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Post by Oldgringo » Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:19 pm

AndyC wrote:Excellent - I've joined the fray as well :)
Aye, and it's a fine job you're doing. :txflag:

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Post by gigag04 » Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:24 pm

I too have posted.
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Post by ScottDLS » Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:03 pm

gigag04 wrote:I too have posted.
Aren't they immediately going to reject your opinion because you're an Aggie? "rlol"
4/13/1996 Completed CHL Class, 4/16/1996 Fingerprints, Affidavits, and Application Mailed, 10/4/1996 Received CHL, renewed 1998, 2002, 2006, 2011, 2016...). "ATF... Uhhh...heh...heh....Alcohol, tobacco, and GUNS!! Cool!!!!"


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Post by RPB » Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:28 pm

San Marcos making a big deal out of the Veto http://www.newstreamz.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

so I been busy here so maybe some News Stations counteract the Texas State President's crush on John Woods pulling her strings viewtopic.php?f=90&t=40067" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by AndyC » Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:53 pm

Oldgringo wrote:Aye, and it's a fine job you're doing. :txflag:
Why thank you, sir - very kind of you :cheers2:

I do have to credit the campuscarry.org site with some of the facts I use, tho - such as the CHL-course being on-par with police training.
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Post by RPB » Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:58 am

Blake:
What the story says... is that it's not smart or safe to have people carrying guns around campus who are not in uniform. It's hard to tell who's "good" and who's "bad" when "situations" pop up.... like at the PCL or a football game.
Next thing you know, we'll have two CHLs shooting at each other because they both they think the other one is the bad guy. Large crowds and guns = trouble. So does alcohol...
Cops have radios and coordinate their responses to potential crime scenes. What are you gonna do to make sure you get the right person?
My reply there:

Blake
1) 65,000 people a day for 3 days = 195,000 people
ACL in a city park, where CHL carrying is legal.
SO, your "Large crowds and guns = trouble" argument = FAIL

2) It's hard to tell who's "good" and who's "bad" Next thing you know, we'll have two CHLs shooting at each other because they both they think the other one is the bad guy.

This argument has already been dismissed by Houston Police Officers’ Union, the largest police union in the state of Texas, spoke out in favor of legalizing licensed concealed carry (of handguns) on Texas college campuses and dismissed the notion that the presence of armed citizens would somehow cause chaos or confusion during or following a campus shooting.

Why do you find it hard to distinguish between a "good guy" hiding under a desk and a "bad guy" walking desk to desk executing people by shooting them in the head one by one?

"What are you gonna do to make sure you get the right person? "
Hide under my desk and not shoot other people hiding under theirs, but when the AK-47 is swinging towards my head, I might stand up and provide a bit of deterrent. However, if unarmed, I'd just pray he didn't bring enough ammo and wait my turn while pointing him in your direction while you tweet. :evil2:
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Post by AndyC » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:08 am

You're a bad man, "John" :smilelol5:
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Post by stevie_d_64 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:56 am

I'm glad I spend most of my time converting those people who are mature, well-learned and eager to find out more about the Texas CHL and get involved...

Idiots like "Blake"...Are not worth any of our time or effort...

I am glad that I am expanding our ranks once again by one person...I believe his wife will not be too far behind him...And she (at first) didn't like guns, what she called "Boom Booms" when we started to get to know them...

So hopefully by the end of tomorrow, we'll have another person waiting for their "plastic"...
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Post by AndyC » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:06 am

stevie_d_64 wrote:Idiots like "Blake"...Are not worth any of our time or effort...
That's a fact in itself - but IMO the point of a debate is not to convert the other guy, it's to win the audience :mrgreen:
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Post by LarryH » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:26 am

I'm really enjoying the continuing dialogue between our logical friends and the illogical anti's.

Way to go Andy, c-dub, JJVP, et.al.


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Post by b322da » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:35 am

I have not read a single story about a college student with a CHL committing suicide with a handgun. ;-)

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Post by AndyC » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:02 pm

macavity wrote:
RPB wrote:This argument has already been dismissed by Houston Police Officers’ Union, the largest police union in the state of Texas, spoke out in favor of legalizing licensed concealed carry (of handguns) on Texas college campuses and dismissed the notion that the presence of armed citizens would somehow cause chaos or confusion during or following a campus shooting.
I tried searching for the Houston Police Officer's Union piece, but I only found this:
Houston police union endorses campus carry? viewtopic.php?f=94&t=38426" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
...which links to http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?secti ... id=7696887" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
but the article doesn't (anymore?) mention this.

Do you know where I can find it?
I just spoke with a very nice young lady called Nicky at the HPOU and asked her if she would help me verify specifically who at HPOU said that - she put me on hold for roughly a minute and then came back and said "I spoke with him and he will call you soon".

If he actually does call, I'll post about it here.
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