Dr. Ben Carson on Gun Control following the OR shooting.

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Dr. Ben Carson on Gun Control following the OR shooting.

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http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/politics ... /73370350/

A few interesting quotes:
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the lesson of the nation's latest mass shooting isn't to enact more limits on guns but to consider whether gun-free zones actually may be drawing shooters.
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Carson endorsed expanding efforts to identify and treat the mentally ill before they commit acts of violence.
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He also suggested it might make sense to arm kindergarten teachers, and he rejected as wrong-headed proposals to restore the ban on military-style assault weapons.
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While Carson once supported the idea of banning assault weapons and armor-piercing ammunition, he says he changed his mind after he read more about the history of tyranny....

...Asked whether many Americans worried less about the threat from the government and more about the threat of fellow citizens armed with assault rifles, Carson replied: "You need to be able to protect yourself from both."

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Rrash wrote:http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/politics ... /73370350/

A few interesting quotes:
1:
the lesson of the nation's latest mass shooting isn't to enact more limits on guns but to consider whether gun-free zones actually may be drawing shooters.
2:
Carson endorsed expanding efforts to identify and treat the mentally ill before they commit acts of violence.
3:
He also suggested it might make sense to arm kindergarten teachers, and he rejected as wrong-headed proposals to restore the ban on military-style assault weapons.
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While Carson once supported the idea of banning assault weapons and armor-piercing ammunition, he says he changed his mind after he read more about the history of tyranny....

...Asked whether many Americans worried less about the threat from the government and more about the threat of fellow citizens armed with assault rifles, Carson replied: "You need to be able to protect yourself from both."
So we have another politician reversing his previous position on guns. Is it genuine?

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Taypo wrote:
Rrash wrote:4:
While Carson once supported the idea of banning assault weapons and armor-piercing ammunition, he says he changed his mind after he read more about the history of tyranny....

...Asked whether many Americans worried less about the threat from the government and more about the threat of fellow citizens armed with assault rifles, Carson replied: "You need to be able to protect yourself from both."
So we have another politician reversing his previous position on guns. Is it genuine?
Dunno, but being willing to change your mind after learning more about an issue is a good thing.
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FWIW, Rubio is saying the same things as of this mornings news.
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This is a good thing.

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Dave2 wrote:
Taypo wrote:
Rrash wrote:4:
While Carson once supported the idea of banning assault weapons and armor-piercing ammunition, he says he changed his mind after he read more about the history of tyranny....

...Asked whether many Americans worried less about the threat from the government and more about the threat of fellow citizens armed with assault rifles, Carson replied: "You need to be able to protect yourself from both."
So we have another politician reversing his previous position on guns. Is it genuine?
Dunno, but being willing to change your mind after learning more about an issue is a good thing.
I agree completely, but there's no trust that it's actually a change in thinking.
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‘When someone persuades me that I am wrong, I change my mind. What do you do?’

Attributed to John Maynard Keynes.

Of course, he was an economist. It was said of economists "if Parliament asked six economists for an opinion on any subject they always got seven answers. Two from John Maynard Keynes."
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Sure people can change their minds. The first time that I was old enough to vote, I voted Democrat, never again did I make that mistake.
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John Galt wrote:Sure people can change their minds. The first time that I was old enough to vote, I voted Democrat, never again did I make that mistake.
I'll be darned.

My parents voted Republican all their lives, but since their deaths, they've been voting Democrat.
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JALLEN wrote:
John Galt wrote:Sure people can change their minds. The first time that I was old enough to vote, I voted Democrat, never again did I make that mistake.
I'll be darned.

My parents voted Republican all their lives, but since their deaths, they've been voting Democrat.
That sounds like someone changed their minds for them. :smilelol5:

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I like Ben Carson and hope he does well in the race .
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JALLEN wrote:
John Galt wrote:Sure people can change their minds. The first time that I was old enough to vote, I voted Democrat, never again did I make that mistake.
I'll be darned.

My parents voted Republican all their lives, but since their deaths, they've been voting Democrat.
Now that there is funny. I voted democrat from 1972 to 1992. I cast my first vote as a republican in 1996, and my last vote as a republican in 2012. I am now a Liberative Conservatarian, and an independent.
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The Annoyed Man wrote:
JALLEN wrote:
John Galt wrote:Sure people can change their minds. The first time that I was old enough to vote, I voted Democrat, never again did I make that mistake.
I'll be darned.

My parents voted Republican all their lives, but since their deaths, they've been voting Democrat.
Now that there is funny. I voted democrat from 1972 to 1992. I cast my first vote as a republican in 1996, and my last vote as a republican in 2012. I am now a Liberative Conservatarian, and an independent.
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I liked Ben a whole lot, until his statement on Assault weapons. I'm not claiming the guy to be a lier, bandwagonner, politician, or any of the such; I really like his demeanor and even the rest of his platform, as well as his background. All that I am saying is it disappointed me when he said assault weapons should only be legal for people in "rural" areas.
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