Now That's Funny Right There...

As the name indicates, this is the place for gun-related political discussions. It is not open to other political topics.

Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton

User avatar

Topic author
thatguyoverthere
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 440
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:51 pm
Location: Fannin County

Now That's Funny Right There...

#1

Post by thatguyoverthere » Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:37 pm

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/08/02/pa ... n-law.html
LAKE OSWEGO, Ore. – A pastor in an affluent suburb of Portland may have run afoul of Oregon law when he transferred an AR-15 assault rifle that he won in a softball league raffle to a gun-owning friend for safekeeping without performing a background check.

Oregon State Police spokesman Capt. Bill Fugate confirmed Tuesday to The Associated Press that his agency would open an investigation.

Fugate says the decision of whether or not to charge the Rev. Jeremy Lucas, of Christ Church Episcopal Parish in Lake Oswego, would fall to the local district attorney's office.

Lucas drew national attention last week when he used $3,000 in church funds to buy as many of the raffle tickets as he could.

Lucas has said he wanted to win so he could destroy the gun.
I really hope the reverend is not prosecuted. But do you think a "regular" citizen would get the benefit of the doubt from the prosecutor?


MikeyJ
Junior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 42
Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:48 pm
Location: Tomball

Re: Now That's Funny Right There...

#2

Post by MikeyJ » Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:44 pm

I'd be a bit upset that the reverend spent $3k in church funds to buy the tickets. Any why bother giving the gun to a friend for "safe keeping" when his plan is to destroy it? Why not just give the cops a call and turn it over to them?

User avatar

mojo84
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 9008
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:07 pm
Location: Boerne, TX (Kendall County)

Re: Now That's Funny Right There...

#3

Post by mojo84 » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:05 pm

Not seeing anything funny in this story.
Note: Me sharing a link and information published by others does not constitute my endorsement, agreement, disagreement, my opinion or publishing by me. If you do not like what is contained at a link I share, take it up with the author or publisher of the content.

User avatar

JustSomeOldGuy
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 1261
Joined: Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:49 am

Re: Now That's Funny Right There...

#4

Post by JustSomeOldGuy » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:06 pm

why not just buy a $600 off the shelf AR to destroy, thereby saving the church $2400 while still making the same political statement........
member of the church of San Gabriel de Possenti
lay brother in the order of St. John Moses Browning
USPSA limited/single stack/revolver


TreyHouston
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 1866
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:00 pm
Location: Tomball

Re: Now That's Funny Right There...

#5

Post by TreyHouston » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:07 pm

MikeyJ wrote:I'd be a bit upset that the reverend spent $3k in church funds to buy the tickets. Any why bother giving the gun to a friend for "safe keeping" when his plan is to destroy it? Why not just give the cops a call and turn it over to them?
:iagree:
His "story" sounds fishy to me! A nitpicking charge like this??? I bet the police have more on this guy that they just cant prove!!!
"Jump in there sport, get it done and we'll all sing your praises." -Chas

How many times a day could you say this? :cheers2:

User avatar

Topic author
thatguyoverthere
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 440
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:51 pm
Location: Fannin County

Re: Now That's Funny Right There...

#6

Post by thatguyoverthere » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:42 pm

mojo84 wrote:Not seeing anything funny in this story.
How about: "An ironic incongruity in which I personally find some level of amusement."

Let me reiterate - I wish the pastor no ill will or legal consequences. I'm sure he is a thoughtful citizen who is concerned about violence in the USA and felt he had an opportunity to "do something."

Based on his actions, it is my assumption that he was probably in favor of the recently passed background check law in Oregon.

It is that situation which I find ironically humorous ("funny").

For those who do not, I'm ok with that, too. :cheers2:

User avatar

C-dub
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 12898
Joined: Sat May 16, 2009 7:18 pm
Location: DFW

Re: Now That's Funny Right There...

#7

Post by C-dub » Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:33 pm

JustSomeOldGuy wrote:why not just buy a $600 off the shelf AR to destroy, thereby saving the church $2400 while still making the same political statement........
That's kinda what I was thinking.

Some liberal rocket scientist spent $3k to win one rifle when he could have purchased three or more and destroyed those instead of just having a better chance to WIN one to destroy.
I am not and have never been a LEO. My avatar is in honor of my friend, Dallas Police Sargent Michael Smith, who was murdered along with four other officers in Dallas on 7.7.2016.
NRA Patriot-Endowment Lifetime Member---------------------------------------------Si vis pacem, para bellum.................................................Patriot Guard Rider

User avatar

Javier730
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 1265
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:29 pm
Location: San Antonio, Texas

Re: Now That's Funny Right There...

#8

Post by Javier730 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:20 am

C-dub wrote:
JustSomeOldGuy wrote:why not just buy a $600 off the shelf AR to destroy, thereby saving the church $2400 while still making the same political statement........
That's kinda what I was thinking.

Some liberal rocket scientist spent $3k to win one rifle when he could have purchased three or more and destroyed those instead of just having a better chance to WIN one to destroy.
Yes but he doesn't care because its not his money. He'll just pass the basket around a few more times the next few Sundays and he'll get another 3 grand to blow on whatever he wants.
“Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity.”
― Horace Mann

User avatar

AndyC
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 10765
Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:34 pm
Location: Garland, TX

Re: Now That's Funny Right There...

#9

Post by AndyC » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:01 am

thatguyoverthere wrote:Let me reiterate - I wish the pastor no ill will or legal consequences. I'm sure he is a thoughtful citizen who is concerned about violence in the USA and felt he had an opportunity to "do something."

Based on his actions, it is my assumption that he was probably in favor of the recently passed background check law in Oregon.

It is that situation which I find ironically humorous ("funny").
:iagree:

I'm a tad perturbed that he can use OPM to make his political statement, though.
Remember Kitty Genovese

Image

Amateurs skip safety-checks - pros don't.
Preferred Travel Agent - 72 Virgins Dating Club, Iraq
There's nothing quite like the offer of 230 grains to a man's chest to remind him of his manners


Abraham
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 8399
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:43 am

Re: Now That's Funny Right There...

#10

Post by Abraham » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:42 am

The national anthem of socialists/communists: "... he can use OPM..."

User avatar

allisji
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 911
Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:44 am
Location: Seabrook

Re: Now That's Funny Right There...

#11

Post by allisji » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:46 am

JustSomeOldGuy wrote:why not just buy a $600 off the shelf AR to destroy, thereby saving the church $2400 while still making the same political statement........
He couldn't bear to buy a gun with church money. But raffle tickets are OK.

I'd sure like to know the rest of the story on this one. Something smells fishy about this.
LTC since 2015
I have contacted my state rep Dennis Paul about co-sponsoring HB560.

User avatar

LucasMcCain
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 679
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:00 pm
Location: DFW, Texas

Re: Now That's Funny Right There...

#12

Post by LucasMcCain » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:57 am

That's really awful that he spent money that was given to bring people to saving faith in Jesus Christ on raffle tickets. He should be ashamed of himself. That is not being a good steward of the funds that were entrusted to him. Tithes and offerings are supposed to further the kingdom of God. I fail to see how making a political statement in this way does that.
I carry a gun so that I can go home to my family, and if need be, help you go home to yours.

I am not a lawyer.


Abraham
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 8399
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:43 am

Re: Now That's Funny Right There...

#13

Post by Abraham » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:03 am

Religious quacks embezzle/misappropriate money all the time. He should be defrocked pronto.

He doesn't taint all truly religious folk as all groups have a percentage of bad actors.

User avatar

mojo84
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 9008
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:07 pm
Location: Boerne, TX (Kendall County)

Re: Now That's Funny Right There...

#14

Post by mojo84 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:36 am

LucasMcCain wrote:That's really awful that he spent money that was given to bring people to saving faith in Jesus Christ on raffle tickets. He should be ashamed of himself. That is not being a good steward of the funds that were entrusted to him. Tithes and offerings are supposed to further the kingdom of God. I fail to see how making a political statement in this way does that.

Exactly.

I also think his political position regarding guns is dangerous. If he used my tithe money in such a way I would be infuriated.
Note: Me sharing a link and information published by others does not constitute my endorsement, agreement, disagreement, my opinion or publishing by me. If you do not like what is contained at a link I share, take it up with the author or publisher of the content.


vjallen75
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 529
Joined: Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:13 am
Location: HEB

Re: Now That's Funny Right There...

#15

Post by vjallen75 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:49 am

He should have just given the AR to one of us. I would have gladly taken it, especially considering that I don't own one, yet.

Still confused as to why, if he wanted to "destroy" said firearm, why "give" it to a gun owning friend? :banghead:
Vence
NRA Member, EDC: FNS-9mm
I have contact my state rep., Jonathan Stickland, about supporting HB 560. Fine out who represents you, here.

Post Reply

Return to “Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues”