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stroo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:41 pm Republicans in Texas better wake up and figure out how to get Hispanic votes and suburban votes. In my area which historically has been strongly Republican, I now have a Democrat state senator and a Democrat state rep who doesn't even live in the district. And my Congressman, Marchant, just barely won.

Republicans need to wake up!

Maybe we need a waiting period, say 5 years, before an immigrant to Texas can vote in State or Local elections?

10 years for transplants from CA, NY, NJ or WA.

Kidding, of course. Kinda.

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:30 am

stroo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:41 pm Republicans in Texas better wake up and figure out how to get Hispanic votes and suburban votes. In my area which historically has been strongly Republican, I now have a Democrat state senator and a Democrat state rep who doesn't even live in the district. And my Congressman, Marchant, just barely won.

Republicans need to wake up!

Maybe we need a waiting period, say 5 years, before an immigrant to Texas can vote in State or Local elections?

10 years for transplants from CA, NY, NJ or WA.

Kidding, of course. Kinda.

Hey! 10 year waiting period?? Well, I won't be lying if I said that I'd be willing to give up my votes if each of my concessions means two or more fewer Democratic votes.

strogg wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:52 pm

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:30 am

stroo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:41 pm Republicans in Texas better wake up and figure out how to get Hispanic votes and suburban votes. In my area which historically has been strongly Republican, I now have a Democrat state senator and a Democrat state rep who doesn't even live in the district. And my Congressman, Marchant, just barely won.

Republicans need to wake up!

Maybe we need a waiting period, say 5 years, before an immigrant to Texas can vote in State or Local elections?

10 years for transplants from CA, NY, NJ or WA.

Kidding, of course. Kinda.

Hey! 10 year waiting period?? Well, I won't be lying if I said that I'd be willing to give up my votes if each of my concessions means two or more fewer Democratic votes.

Those of us in Galveston County are thinking the same thing. But our fear isn't about the Californians, but rather the ignorant hoards streaming from Harris county. Something happened there. I am not sure what, but a sudden wave of stupidity suddenly took over. Has anyone checked out the water supply? Where is it commong from? Flint MI.?

Liberty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:34 am

strogg wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:52 pm

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:30 am

stroo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:41 pm Republicans in Texas better wake up and figure out how to get Hispanic votes and suburban votes. In my area which historically has been strongly Republican, I now have a Democrat state senator and a Democrat state rep who doesn't even live in the district. And my Congressman, Marchant, just barely won.

Republicans need to wake up!

Maybe we need a waiting period, say 5 years, before an immigrant to Texas can vote in State or Local elections?

10 years for transplants from CA, NY, NJ or WA.

Kidding, of course. Kinda.

Hey! 10 year waiting period?? Well, I won't be lying if I said that I'd be willing to give up my votes if each of my concessions means two or more fewer Democratic votes.

Those of us in Galveston County are thinking the same thing. But our fear isn't about the Californians, but rather the ignorant hoards streaming from Harris county. Something happened there. I am not sure what, but a sudden wave of stupidity suddenly took over. Has anyone checked out the water supply? Where is it commong from? Flint MI.?

Free stuff is a powerful motivator, and goes to show that even among alleged conservatives, there are those who can be bought. Add that to the blue immigration wave from other states, and the stupid is getting stronger. With every election, my urge to get away from big cities and off the grid in a rural setting gets stronger.

strogg wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:52 pm

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:30 am

stroo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:41 pm Republicans in Texas better wake up and figure out how to get Hispanic votes and suburban votes. In my area which historically has been strongly Republican, I now have a Democrat state senator and a Democrat state rep who doesn't even live in the district. And my Congressman, Marchant, just barely won.

Republicans need to wake up!

Maybe we need a waiting period, say 5 years, before an immigrant to Texas can vote in State or Local elections?

10 years for transplants from CA, NY, NJ or WA.

Kidding, of course. Kinda.

Hey! 10 year waiting period?? Well, I won't be lying if I said that I'd be willing to give up my votes if each of my concessions means two or more fewer Democratic votes.

I can attest to the fact that in the week before the election, I saw more out of State license plates (mainly NY and CT) in North Dallas, as well as a number of "young adults" wearing "Beto" paraphernalia and other leftist gear in the grocery store and at some of the more trendy local restaurants. This was a massively well funded and organized attack on Texas, make no mistake about it.

when considering the difference in polling between Ted and Beto you also need to remember that Beto outspent Ted by a significant margin, had major star power pushing for him, The media in his pocket, and a serious socialist movement in his corner -- yet he still lost. On paper, and in the minds of Beto's people, it was impossible for him to lose.

We can keep Texas red but it will require a lot of making friends and not enemies, it will require education of the public, and it will require showing people why they are better off with freedom than [not really] free stuff.

Bitter Clinger wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:08 am

strogg wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:52 pm

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:30 am

stroo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:41 pm Republicans in Texas better wake up and figure out how to get Hispanic votes and suburban votes. In my area which historically has been strongly Republican, I now have a Democrat state senator and a Democrat state rep who doesn't even live in the district. And my Congressman, Marchant, just barely won.

Republicans need to wake up!

Maybe we need a waiting period, say 5 years, before an immigrant to Texas can vote in State or Local elections?

10 years for transplants from CA, NY, NJ or WA.

Kidding, of course. Kinda.

Hey! 10 year waiting period?? Well, I won't be lying if I said that I'd be willing to give up my votes if each of my concessions means two or more fewer Democratic votes.

I can attest to the fact that in the week before the election, I saw more out of State license plates (mainly NY and CT) in North Dallas, as well as a number of "young adults" wearing "Beto" paraphernalia and other leftist gear in the grocery store and at some of the more trendy local restaurants. This was a massively well funded and organized attack on Texas, make no mistake about it.

I also saw several Ca. licensed vehicles, one was even sporting Beto stickers. Some were in my little town where the Beto signs were not so prevalent.

when considering the difference in polling between Ted and Beto you also need to remember that Beto outspent Ted by a significant margin, had major star power pushing for him, The media in his pocket, and a serious socialist movement in his corner -- yet he still lost. On paper, and in the minds of Beto's people, it was impossible for him to lose.

We can keep Texas red but it will require a lot of making friends and not enemies, it will require education of the public, and it will require showing people why they are better off with freedom than [not really] free stuff.

Keep in mind that Progressives (Socialists / Communists) have been subverting public education in the US for more than a century -- gradually softening minds and rewriting history so that Socialisms failures and inherent flaws aren't taught or understood. To boot, the media has also been co-opted, acting as the propaganda arm of the Left. Their fight to this point has been long and they are now reaping some rewards for the efforts put in by generations of Leftists.

If we are to remain under a Republican form of government (not Republican as in the political party but the simple form of our Federal Government), the time and effort needs to be put in on the so-called Conservative and Libertarian sides, focusing on education and media for lasting impact. Though I find Trump's methods sometimes distasteful, I appreciate his attack on media bias as a strong thrust in the right direction. The rest of us who appreciate our birthright of Liberty as US citizens must capitalize on opportunities to educate and inform.

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:04 am

Liberty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:34 am

strogg wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:52 pm

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:30 am

stroo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:41 pm Republicans in Texas better wake up and figure out how to get Hispanic votes and suburban votes. In my area which historically has been strongly Republican, I now have a Democrat state senator and a Democrat state rep who doesn't even live in the district. And my Congressman, Marchant, just barely won.

Republicans need to wake up!

Maybe we need a waiting period, say 5 years, before an immigrant to Texas can vote in State or Local elections?

10 years for transplants from CA, NY, NJ or WA.

Kidding, of course. Kinda.

Hey! 10 year waiting period?? Well, I won't be lying if I said that I'd be willing to give up my votes if each of my concessions means two or more fewer Democratic votes.

Those of us in Galveston County are thinking the same thing. But our fear isn't about the Californians, but rather the ignorant hoards streaming from Harris county. Something happened there. I am not sure what, but a sudden wave of stupidity suddenly took over. Has anyone checked out the water supply? Where is it commong from? Flint MI.?

Free stuff is a powerful motivator, and goes to show that even among alleged conservatives, there are those who can be bought. Add that to the blue immigration wave from other states, and the stupid is getting stronger. With every election, my urge to get away from big cities and off the grid in a rural setting gets stronger.

Not only Yankee and Left Coast states, but from other countries too. They're accustomed to socialist hand outs and safety nets, and they want the same things in America. It's maddening they come here for more opportunity and then demand political and social policies that limit opportunity and only work to drag down other people to their lowest common denominator. I'm afraid we reached the tipping point where there's no turning back without a revolution. Maybe not a civil war. Hopefully not a civil war! But the economic decline is irreversible without something happening rivaling the industrial revolution or some Act of God.

Gator Guy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:39 pm Hopefully not a civil war! But the economic decline is irreversible without something happening rivaling the industrial revolution or some Act of God.

I dream of a 1000 foot high tsunami hitting the left coast - that should help to reduce the libtard population a bit- if the population of cal gets significantly culled they will not be entitled to so many electoral colleg votes. If only we could steer a modest little asteroid (not a doomsday size more like the one that hit Arizona) into an impact zone about1000 miles due west of San Fran.

Economics will fix this. The reality is that socialism outside of universal slavery to the state (i.e. "communism") rests upon the theft of money by printing more of it. This process steal from the poor to give to the rich while financing quasi-socialist policies. America has accomplished this feat in a never before seen way, sucking wealth from not only the middle and lower class in the US but also every nation that uses dollars as a reserve and every person the world over who holds or uses dollars.

This process always breeds reliance upon it, and when this engine shows signs of wear, the desperate chiefs merely push it harder rather than stepping back and evaluating the underlying problem. Recall Quint in Jaws, obviously destroying his engine and crippling his vessel through willful ignorance and in defiance of their respective limits. These systems could be dismantled safely, but human nature prevents that process.

Crashes crash (versus desecalating peacefully) because the combination of greed and a desperate belief in the persistence of normalcy cause the exact people in finance who should predict and prevent the crash to sprint toward the edge while shouting for others to follow.

Economic action and finance need one another, but they can be horribly decoupled, often for the benefit for government spending and always to the benefit of the obscenely rich. Depressions tend to reset that circumstance (at least until we forget the lesson), and that's what we need: finance needs to be brought to heel to suuport the economy, which needs to work for people while the government keeps its greedy hands off.

Right now we have the government reappropriating wealth from the world in general and 99.5% of Americans in particular for the benefit of the super rich, and doing it for the highly ironic cause of redistributing wealth to the bottom end of the folks that they're robbing.

Oldgringo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:47 pm Exactly! People who have yet to finish high school, never had a job or any other familial responsibilities and otherwise, don't know Snit from Shinola are allowed to vote.

Absolutely. I think lowering the voting age to 18 was a huge mistake.

Ruark wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:30 pm

Oldgringo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:47 pm Exactly! People who have yet to finish high school, never had a job or any other familial responsibilities and otherwise, don't know Snit from Shinola are allowed to vote.

Absolutely. I think lowering the voting age to 18 was a huge mistake.

Needs to be 25.

John Galt wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:58 pm

Ruark wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:30 pm

Oldgringo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:47 pm Exactly! People who have yet to finish high school, never had a job or any other familial responsibilities and otherwise, don't know Snit from Shinola are allowed to vote.

Absolutely. I think lowering the voting age to 18 was a huge mistake.

Needs to be 25.

Maybe, but I remember being 19 facing the draft and joining the army. Being held accountable but not being able to buy beer, vote, or even marry without a parents permission. I was pretty resentful about that. I think the real answer is that we need to actually teach our kids to be grownups and not axpect anything for nothing. There is always a cost.

John Galt wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:58 pm

Ruark wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:30 pm

Oldgringo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:47 pm Exactly! People who have yet to finish high school, never had a job or any other familial responsibilities and otherwise, don't know Snit from Shinola are allowed to vote.

Absolutely. I think lowering the voting age to 18 was a huge mistake.

Needs to be 25.

Actually you are correct. Look at the insurance actuarry tabled. Rates are lowered at 25. According to science, the brain is not fully mature until about 25 years of age. Young kids just don’t think as well as adults.