TX: San Antonio Fogo de Chao kicks out cop, apologizes

[SewTexas]

my understanding from the discussions around here, is "soft uniform" basically seems to be open carry? with a badge showing. The second problem around here, to the the treatment of the officer, was that the manager didn't ask the officer to cover, he wanted him to leave or take the gun out. Also, there is a rumor that the mayor owns the restaurant...not sure if that's true....
there are other Brazilian places that are better and a bit cheaper.

[Soccerdad1995]

The one nearest me is not posted. They do have a cute little sign that mentions something about guns, but clearly does not intend to ban them since it does not comply with the legal requirements for doing so.

Since this is an all you can eat place, it would be interesting to see what would happen if someone came in, ate a bunch, then tucked their shirt in. Asking one to leave means that they cannot also charge you, since they are refusing to provide you with any more food, right?

Also, at least in the San Antonio location they couldn't call the police if they disagreed, since they apparently don't want even on-duty cops to carry weapons there. I guess they could demand that the dispatcher send only unarmed LEO's and see how far that gets them

[Lynyrd]

And who did the manager plan to call if the officer had declined to leave?

I think if I'd had been that officer I would have encouraged the manager to call the police, just to see what happened!

Obviously the office was trying to deescalate the situation and not antagonize the idiot. My feeling is that most idiots never get to step two in a thought train (What if?) Especially so if said idiot is trying to flaunt some meager authority.

[Grayling813]

my understanding from the discussions around here, is "soft uniform" basically seems to be open carry? with a badge showing. The second problem around here, to the the treatment of the officer, was that the manager didn't ask the officer to cover, he wanted him to leave or take the gun out. Also, there is a rumor that the mayor owns the restaurant...not sure if that's true....
there are other Brazilian places that are better and a bit cheaper.

I believe the "soft uniform", based upon observance of officers wearing them, is a polo shirt with badge embroidered on it, duty pistol openly carried and badge attached to the belt in plain view. An officer so attired may or may not be "on duty."

[03Lightningrocks]

my understanding from the discussions around here, is "soft uniform" basically seems to be open carry? with a badge showing. The second problem around here, to the the treatment of the officer, was that the manager didn't ask the officer to cover, he wanted him to leave or take the gun out. Also, there is a rumor that the mayor owns the restaurant...not sure if that's true....
there are other Brazilian places that are better and a bit cheaper.

I believe the "soft uniform", based upon observance of officers wearing them, is a polo shirt with badge embroidered on it, duty pistol openly carried and badge attached to the belt in plain view. An officer so attired may or may not be "on duty."

One would think they would want and welcome such a person in the restaurant. It would help to deter a bad guy. The person who ask him to leave should be fired for ignorance.

[ELB]

When visiting Bexar county checking out the Alamo, river walk ect. My family and myself ate there and I wouldn't recommend the food. The main reason I remembered that particular restaurant was the Giant rat running around in the Bathroom.

I have eaten at that particular Fogo several times, and I was armed every time. I don't recall any signs...nor rats. I do recall the bathroom because it was impressively nice and clean the times I was there.

[Maxwell]

When visiting Bexar county checking out the Alamo, river walk ect. My family and myself ate there and I wouldn't recommend the food. The main reason I remembered that particular restaurant was the Giant rat running around in the Bathroom.

That was the Mayor...

[03Lightningrocks]

[SigM4]

We actually had dinner there with our wedding party the night before our wedding back in 2009. Seemed ok back then. But I agree, Texas de Brazil is better.

[chasfm11]

One would think they would want and welcome such a person in the restaurant. It would help to deter a bad guy. The person who ask him to leave should be fired for ignorance.

I wish that would happen, too, but I've come to believe that too many businesses would completely sacrifice their business to uphold their "principles." On the surface, that would seem like a good thing. But underlying it is, I believe, the same mentality as a woman that I talked to who admitted that she would rather allow herself to be raped or killed than to defend herself with deadly force. I don't believe that she is alone. Those in business who abhor guns so much that they will eject a police officer with one have the same mindset as the woman regarding the safety of the employees and customers. They don't view their attitude as ignorance. A local Sprouts Farmers Market store was held up at gunpoint a week or so after they posted their 30.06 signs. Letters to the local manager and the corporate headquarters, which appears to be staffed by liberal loons, were answered with the phrase "the safety of our customers." Clearly, they believe that law abiding Texans pose more of a threat than the criminals. I believe that Sprouts would close their doors before allowing armed LTCs on their property. Given the mentality toward law enforcement in many areas today, I'm not sure that places like Sprouts don't view them the same.

[SickSilverado]

One would think they would want and welcome such a person in the restaurant. It would help to deter a bad guy. The person who ask him to leave should be fired for ignorance.

I wish that would happen, too, but I've come to believe that too many businesses would completely sacrifice their business to uphold their "principles." On the surface, that would seem like a good thing. But underlying it is, I believe, the same mentality as a woman that I talked to who admitted that she would rather allow herself to be raped or killed than to defend herself with deadly force. I don't believe that she is alone. Those in business who abhor guns so much that they will eject a police officer with one have the same mindset as the woman regarding the safety of the employees and customers. They don't view their attitude as ignorance. A local Sprouts Farmers Market store was held up at gunpoint a week or so after they posted their 30.06 signs. Letters to the local manager and the corporate headquarters, which appears to be staffed by liberal loons, were answered with the phrase "the safety of our customers." Clearly, they believe that law abiding Texans pose more of a threat than the criminals. I believe that Sprouts would close their doors before allowing armed LTCs on their property. Given the mentality toward law enforcement in many areas today, I'm not sure that places like Sprouts don't view them the same.

I've read/seen/heard that same thinking concerning being raped, beaten, or killed before defending themselves. I don't understand it. I saw a "snowflake" on youtube admit that if he were attacked that he would neither defend himself nor have anyone defend him. I'm just not that in touch with my inner ZEN or whatever to allow that. I also personally know a woman who said she'd "take one for the team" if faced with the threat of death or robbery. She said she'd offer her goods ASAP. Not making this up, this moron used to drop some real gems.