Folks, We Don't Have the Votes.

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Folks, We Don't Have the Votes.

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Yet again the Court dodges the question of clarifying Heller.

My interpretation is that we do not have 5 Justices willing to write an opinion clarifying that legislative firearms' restrictions
will be analyzed through the lens of strict scrutiny. Sad. In fact, the opposite might be the case--there are five Justices willing
to uphold these restrictions through lesser standards but they cannot agree on what those lesser standards should be so cert. was denied. Scary stuff.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/1 ... 4_2cp3.pdf
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dlh wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:47 pm Yet again the Court dodges the question of clarifying Heller.

My interpretation is that we do not have 5 Justices willing to write an opinion clarifying that legislative firearms' restrictions
will be analyzed through the lens of strict scrutiny. Sad. In fact, the opposite might be the case--there are five Justices willing
to uphold these restrictions through lesser standards but they cannot agree on what those lesser standards should be so cert. was denied. Scary stuff.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/1 ... 4_2cp3.pdf
Considering Chief Justice Roberts recent decisions, I'd say your interpretation is spot on. There is the possibility that 2 new justices will be appointed by our next C-I-C, and I'm certainly praying that it will be the Swamp Fox! AKA Donald Trump. ;-)
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I’m assuming not hearing them postpones a decision when it is more in our favor.

Worst would be to lose. Then a future more favorable court could not change their decision.
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philip964 wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:59 pm I’m assuming not hearing them postpones a decision when it is more in our favor.

Worst would be to lose. Then a future more favorable court could not change their decision.
A future court could reverse a previous court's decision. It’s just a rare enough occurrence as to be unlikely.
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For being highly educated and known for in depth thinking, they sure have a hard time understanding "shall not be infringed."
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jason812 wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:21 pm For being highly educated and known for in depth thinking, they sure have a hard time understanding "shall not be infringed."
I’m sure when they wrote that they were all satisfied it was perfectly clear. How could you make it any clearer?

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With Roberts as the swing vote, we have NO advantage. We're still at the mercy of the leftist judges who continue to create new laws and destroy liberty and our God-given rights from the bench......

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It's long been rumored that Roberts is compromised in some way. Either regarding some child adoption irregularities or some tie-in with Jeffrey Epstein. Or, it could be that George W. Bush just appointed another Souter.

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I'm betting that if RBG or any of the liberal votes got replaced, Roberts would suddenly start voting with the Conservative Judges! Tbat way he could be in the Majority!
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crazy2medic wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:20 pm I'm betting that if RBG or any of the liberal votes got replaced, Roberts would suddenly start voting with the Conservative Judges! Tbat way he could be in the Majority!
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crazy2medic wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:20 pm I'm betting that if RBG or any of the liberal votes got replaced, Roberts would suddenly start voting with the Conservative Judges! Tbat way he could be in the Majority!
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