They are apparently going after certain kits:
Polymer80 kit known as the Buy Build Shoot kit
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Polymer80 kit known as the Buy Build Shoot kit
We are well down the path to total control. The Federal government passed rules requiring banks to report transactions over $10,000. Now, they are prosecuting individuals for "structuring" - a term that they use for creating transactions meant to keep below that $10,000 limit. People were required to get an FFL involved if they wanted to sell a gun that they made from an 80% kit. Now the kits are confiscated.Grayling813 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:51 am Thus it begins....where will the new Lexington and Concord be?
Good question.crazy2medic wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:24 pm Since those kits were Legally Purchased, is the ATF going to buy them back? At Cost?
This. It's like the boiling frog.chasfm11 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:58 amWe are well down the path to total control. The Federal government passed rules requiring banks to report transactions over $10,000. Now, they are prosecuting individuals for "structuring" - a term that they use for creating transactions meant to keep below that $10,000 limit. People were required to get an FFL involved if they wanted to sell a gun that they made from an 80% kit. Now the kits are confiscated.Grayling813 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:51 am Thus it begins....where will the new Lexington and Concord be?
There are rules to provide a framework for intrusion below the rule level. I don't think that there will be another Lexington and Concord because they will not come for us, in mass, the way that the British did. We are going to die by a 1,000 cuts.
His executive actions would only reach SCOTUS if there were a court case filed and was lost then appealed through whatever layers for courts with each denying to overturn the executive actions. Given the lack of willingness of the Supreme Court to even hear some of the gun related cases, I wouldn't expect help with this within the Presidential term. He may be able to get away with just about anything that he tries.03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:56 pm I just read a story off of facebook saying Biden has already said he would institute gun control laws through executive action. Surely any laws he tried to implement would have to pass through the supreme court.
If, as the Polymer80 raid seems to indicate, all of those parts now add up to 100% of a firearm, what is the percentage allocated to each component? Can manufacturers soon wave this apparent new definition in the ATF’s collective face and sell completed frames/receivers by themselves as non-firearms? After all, without a slide, barrel or recoil spring, surely that’s less than 80% complete.
Right?
The ATF may have just shot itself in the foot, so to speak. At the very least, they have given us that much more ammunition to demonstrate in court that their definitions are vague, inconsistent, arbitrary and capricious, far beyond the point of mere unconstitutionality.
Home depot sells 90% shotguns...