Concealed carry in TPWD state parks?

Mike from Texas · Post by **Mike from Texas** » Wed May 16, 2007 11:38 am

Taking a short family vacation to Lake Livingston State Park and wondering if CHL is legal there? I plan on doing some bank fishing with the kids and don't care to run up on any snakes without any protection.

NguyenVanDon · Post by **NguyenVanDon** » Wed May 16, 2007 11:45 am

Yes, you are allowed to carry concealed.

http://www.packing.org/state/texas/

http://www.packing.org/state/documents/ ... letter.gif

TIN BENDER · Post by **TIN BENDER** » Wed May 16, 2007 12:54 pm

None of my business but I looked
at packin'.org and it appears that
they do not acknowledge current changes in Tex. law.
such as carrying at church.
what else have they missed.
Just my 2 cents.

Mike from Texas · Post by **Mike from Texas** » Wed May 16, 2007 1:10 pm

I sent a question to TPWD so I can get the answer straight from the source.

seamusTX · Post by **seamusTX** » Wed May 16, 2007 1:58 pm

TIN BENDER wrote:... I looked at packin'.org and it appears that they do not acknowledge current changes in Tex. law. such as carrying at church.

This is what packing.org says:

# *on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other established place of religious worship.
# *On the premises of a Hospital licensed under the Health and Safety Code
# *On the premises of a nursing home licensed under the Health and Safety Code
# *Amusement parks. ...
# Items above marked * Do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.

It's easy to miss the asterisks.
- Jim

TIN BENDER · Post by **TIN BENDER** » Wed May 16, 2007 2:08 pm

seamus, Thank you. You are correct.
iT IS EASY TO OVERLOOK.

seamusTX · Post by **seamusTX** » Wed May 16, 2007 2:21 pm

BTW, it is not against state law to carry in state parks. However, there are some state parks that include federal land where weapons may be banned. It seems you have to find out on a case-by-case basis.

- Jim

RKirby · Post by **RKirby** » Wed May 16, 2007 4:04 pm

Here's a copy of the original letter from (former) TP&W Director Andrew Sansom regarding concealed carry in Texas State Parks:

As has been mentioned, this may not be applicable to the various parks that are on property leased from the Army Corps of Engineers such as Lake Whitney State Park.

ETA: Mike from Texas...it probably wouldn't be a real good idea to shoot snakes (or anything else, for that matter) within the boundaries of a State Park, CHL or not.

It will result in a very unpleasant encounter with a Park Ranger or Game Warden.

seamusTX · Post by **seamusTX** » Wed May 16, 2007 6:19 pm

RKirby wrote:...it probably wouldn't be a real good idea to shoot snakes (or anything else, for that matter) within the boundaries of a State Park

You know, we talk a lot about Chapter 9 of the Penal Code; but the laws regarding killing animals are more complicated.

The only one I know for sure is that you can kill a dog or coyote that is threatening humans or livestock. It is a felony to kill domestic or wild animals in some circumstances.

- Jim

John · Post by **John** » Wed May 16, 2007 8:21 pm

seamusTX wrote:
RKirby wrote:...it probably wouldn't be a real good idea to shoot snakes (or anything else, for that matter) within the boundaries of a State Park
You know, we talk a lot about Chapter 9 of the Penal Code; but the laws regarding killing animals are more complicated.

The only one I know for sure is that you can kill a dog or coyote that is threatening humans or livestock. It is a felony to kill domestic or wild animals in some circumstances.

- Jim

The coyote only needs to exist to be legal to shoot.

seamusTX · Post by **seamusTX** » Wed May 16, 2007 8:56 pm

John wrote:The coyote only needs to exist to be legal to shoot.

What if it is someone else's fenced yard?

- Jim

John · Post by **John** » Wed May 16, 2007 9:34 pm

seamusTX wrote:
John wrote:The coyote only needs to exist to be legal to shoot.
What if it is someone else's fenced yard?

- Jim

quite right, there are exceptions

Post by **Charles L. Cotton** » Thu May 17, 2007 1:52 pm

SB535 just passed in the House on the Local & Consent Calendar, so it is clear that CHL's can carry in LCRA property.

Chas.

BoneDigger · Post by **BoneDigger** » Thu May 17, 2007 4:38 pm

I am an employee of Texas State Parks so I can comment on this. It is indeed legal to carry on State owned parks. Parks leased from the Corps are bound by federal regulations, so you would have to check into that. Livingston is not a COE park, so CC is permitted.

DO NOT SHOOT SNAKES OR ANY OTHER ANIMALS ON A STATE PARK!!!!! Aside from scheduled hunts, parks are game preserves, and that includes coyotes and snakes. In fact, it's illegal to even pick wildflowers on state parks.

Todd

Mike from Texas · Post by **Mike from Texas** » Thu May 17, 2007 11:28 pm

Hmmm, didn't think about them being preserves. Thanks Todd.