Rise of the Warrior Cop

[longtooth]

Double agree & could not have been said better.

[chasfm11]

Building on TAMs point about the proliferation of groups responsible for policing, this clip humorously points out a potential situation.

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=-LIpAxjPt9U[/youtube]

There are already way too many overlaps in responsibility among some to Federal groups and when you add in State and local level ones, the situations appear, at least to me, to become muddier. I believe that a "one upsmanship" mentality among these groups, particularly within the Feds is adding to the problem. At the root, like just about everything else, is too much "free" Federal money flowing. As TAM pointed out, local jurisdictions providing their own funding would result in fewer groups with groups having military style equipment and the tendency to want to use it more than is really needed.

Edit: I've forgotten how to strip out the URL for an imbed again. I don't use it often enough. Sorry.
2nd Edit = fixed a typo and trying to resolve the embed - thanks baldeagle

[jimlongley]

Here we go again. I have yet to see a LEO carrying a bayonet... Sure we do have rifles. Since this forum likes to compare leos to chl so many times all I can say is that if you want to take my ar15 type rifle that I use at work go ahead..... right after you turn in yours. If you don't believe an leo should have a ar15, then you must also believe a normal citizen or chl holder has no need.

Am I allowed to take this as tongue in cheek? Because if you were serious when you wrote this, it's the worst strawman argument I've seen in a long time.

Absolutely..... since I would hope by now you know I am very pro 2nd amendment...

One thing I do say in seriousness though, it is not just the federal police that is militarizing.... we have everyday people running around in their tacticool clothing (5-11 type pants, covert shirts) carrying all sorts of arms. I think society in general is at that level living life via call of duty along with some le type agencies. We also have a whole new generation of le's coming from the wars...

I bought my first couple of pairs of Tru-Specs through the NRA instructor program, specifically because I was having knee problems and I discovered that they were generous in the knee and would accommodate my brace well. I then discovered that I could carry . . . wait for it . . . at least 8 harmonicas in the capacious pockets, so now I have several pairs. I have tried the other brands, but they are not as suitable, and I even have a couple of pair of the Tru-Spec shorts for the same reason.

As an aside, you should see the reaction when I go through an airport checkpoint with all of my harmonicas.

[jimlongley]

Building on TAMs point about the proliferation of groups responsible for policing, this clip humorously points out a potential situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=-LIpAxjPt9U


There are already way too many overlaps in responsibility among some to Federal groups and when you add in State and local level ones, the situations appear, at least to me, to become muddier. I believe that a "one upsmanship" mentality among these groups, particularly within the Feds is adding to the problem. At the root, like just about everything else, is to too much "free" Federal money flowing. As TAM pointed out, local jurisdictions providing their own funding would result in fewer groups with groups having military style equipment and the tendency to want to use it more than is really needed.

Edit: I've forgotten how to strip out the URL for an imbed again. I don't use it often enough. Sorry.

I have long been anticipating the day when opposing SWAT teams get in a gun battle.

[baldeagle]

Building on TAMs point about the proliferation of groups responsible for policing, this clip humorously points out a potential situation.

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=-LIpAxjPt9U[/youtube]

Edit: I've forgotten how to strip out the URL for an imbed again. I don't use it often enough. Sorry.

Fixed it for ya. Embedding Youtube videos is somewhat of an art. In the case of yours, you enclosed it in url brackets instead of youtube brackets. All Youtube videos must have the "www." removed in order to display embedded here. Also, this one had "_popup" added to the end of "watch" and that had to be removed as well.

That video is hilarious but frighteningly possible. It also points out the danger fraught in being unable to identify who the bad guy is.

[chasfm11]

Building on TAMs point about the proliferation of groups responsible for policing, this clip humorously points out a potential situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=-LIpAxjPt9U


There are already way too many overlaps in responsibility among some to Federal groups and when you add in State and local level ones, the situations appear, at least to me, to become muddier. I believe that a "one upsmanship" mentality among these groups, particularly within the Feds is adding to the problem. At the root, like just about everything else, is to too much "free" Federal money flowing. As TAM pointed out, local jurisdictions providing their own funding would result in fewer groups with groups having military style equipment and the tendency to want to use it more than is really needed.

Edit: I've forgotten how to strip out the URL for an imbed again. I don't use it often enough. Sorry.

I have long been anticipating the day when opposing SWAT teams get in a gun battle.

Given the agency overlaps and everyone watching everyone, we could see SWAT against SWAT

The original purpose of Homeland Security was trying to fix to coordination problems among agencies. I see little evidence that it has fixed the problems between the FBI and CIA in any sort of a Constitution preserving way and the additions of all of the other agency police units suggests that more coordination needs to be in place. I seriously doubt that it is.

[bdickens]

Remind me again: who are the domestic terrorists?

[VMI77]

If some other unit needs SWAT, let them call up the FBI and ask. But sure as hades the DOE doesn't need one.

In this particular case at least we need to strike at the root......we wouldn't have DOE SWAT if we didn't have a DOE. We don't need a DOE, and furthermore, as in all ventures the government forces its way into, the educational system has only gotten worse since this completely unnecessary agency was created.

[The Annoyed Man]

If some other unit needs SWAT, let them call up the FBI and ask. But sure as hades the DOE doesn't need one.

In this particular case at least we need to strike at the root......we wouldn't have DOE SWAT if we didn't have a DOE. We don't need a DOE, and furthermore, as in all ventures the government forces its way into, the educational system has only gotten worse since this completely unnecessary agency was created.

Which is why I previously posted: "How much did this cost the taxpayers, and for an agency which does not have a constitutionally mandated mission, no less.....?"

[bizarrenormality]

Remind me again: who are the domestic terrorists?

I could tell you but I might get banned.

[mgood]

That video is hilarious but frighteningly possible. It also points out the danger fraught in being unable to identify who the bad guy is.

It's why we all need CHL badges.

[K.Mooneyham]

TAM and VMI77 are correct, just approaching it from slightly different angles...we would NOT have this problem if it were not for a MASSIVELY bloated and over-reaching Federal government. I know how that budget stuff works...spend it or lose it...a most ridiculous way to run government funding, but then again, no bureaucrat wants to have to ACTUALLY JUSTIFY their expenditures.