Bass Hall Newly Posted

[Keith B]

Since I don't drink, I don't normally go into any place that has a 51% sign. But this has huge repercussions on limiting CC. Any business or venue that hires a subcontractor/vendor to sell alcohol will essentially make the entire premises off limits and opens up more questions:

Doesn't that make all of the above situations under 51% rule?

Thanks,

Ron

What about a restaurant that sells alcohol but contracts it out to a vendor?

Yes, it would be the same. However, I am not aware of any restaurant that would sub-contract out the alcohol sales. This is usually done at places like museums, theaters, etc where the main business is not food and drink, but something else. A restaurant is in the business of serving food and beverages, so they will normally also hold the liquor license, so the revenue is combined with food and drink and food sales usually will outweigh alcohol sales.

What about catered events (Ex. Wedding Reception etc.) and a vendor is hired to serve alcohol?

It could potentially be the same. Let's say you rent a conference hall that does not provide food, beverages or alcohol. If you hire a caterer that holds the license and their main income is from alcohol sales it could become a 51% location. HOWEVER, that will probably be a rare occurrence as well. The reason being to serve alcohol at a location you must have a license for that specific address. The caterer would be required to apply for a temporary license for that location and it would be a pain for them to get one for every event. Most wedding halls will have their own alcohol sales and license. If they hold the license, sell food and the hall rental charges as well, then they probably would NOT be a 51% location unless they have a regular bar. Many VFW, Elks Lodge, American Legion, etc will rent a hall to you. These many times are already a 51% location due to the regular bar being part of their business. The way to tell if that location is 51% is to look it up here http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/PublicInquiry/Status.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Another option is some rental places allow you to bring in your own alcohol for the event if they don't have a liquor license. You can't sell it, but you can have an open bar and give it to your guests without a license.

It is convoluted, but so far I have only once ran across a location that threw me for a curve, and the was the Kimbell Museum.

[Jaguar]

HB3218 would have fixed this.

[SigM4]

Coming from someone who bartended at Bass Hall for 2+ years, I still don't understand this myself. I guess the fact that my paycheck came from "Performing Arts Fort Worth" would tend to indicate that I was employed by Bass Hall, and yet I supposedly worked for a contract company? And as I said in the previous thread, all the money from alcohol sales went directly to Bass Hall (I know because I used to be responsible for counting/dropping it from time to time). No where in my years there did I ever encounter the "Arts Amenities" name associated with the liquor license. I still don't even know who that refers to. As far as I know the alcohol was purchased by, dispensed by, and profited Bass Hall. I really hope someone can follow up with more as I think someone is trying an end-around in this particular situation.

[Keith B]

Coming from someone who bartended at Bass Hall for 2+ years, I still don't understand this myself. I guess the fact that my paycheck came from "Performing Arts Fort Worth" would tend to indicate that I was employed by Bass Hall, and yet I supposedly worked for a contract company? And as I said in the previous thread, all the money from alcohol sales went directly to Bass Hall (I know because I used to be responsible for counting/dropping it from time to time). No where in my years there did I ever encounter the "Arts Amenities" name associated with the liquor license. I still don't even know who that refers to. As far as I know the alcohol was purchased by, dispensed by, and profited Bass Hall. I really hope someone can follow up with more as I think someone is trying an end-around in this particular situation.

It is possible that Bass Hall has sub-companies incorporated. Arts Amenities Inc. is listed as a for-profit business http://www.wysk.com/index/texas/fort-wo ... nc/profile" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; They show two locations in the TABC database, which correlate to the Perry R. Bass Performance Hall and Maddox-Muse Center locations. Performing Arts Fort Worth is the non-profit which oversees the management of the hall. I will bet that this is done so the concession sales are listed as for-profit and the tickets and performance portion is non-profit. It all has to do with taxes and tax base.