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Re: Log-Summary of Campus Carry Hearing 750 out of committee

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:11 pm
by hirundo82
Pawpaw wrote:One thing I can't figure out from the language in the bill...

If a private school decides to "opt out", do they have to post the "big ugly sign"?
I asked that question a few weeks ago, and it was never really resolved. I think HB750 would put private schools on equal footing with other private employers--they can fire you if they catch you, but you can't be charged with anything unless you've been given proper §30.06 notice.

Personally, I hope that private schools that choose to ban carry have to put up the big ugly sign. You think we can get it changed so that "contrasting colors" means it has to be in neon green on a bright pink background? Nobody will miss that.

Re: Log-Summary of Campus Carry Hearing 750 out of committee

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:24 pm
by OldSchool
RHenriksen wrote: ...who enters academia, by and large? Not 2A types (well, except for the hard sciences, and they're not the ones running the asylum).
Thanks for that stipulation -- and you're correct on both counts!

Re: Log-Summary of Campus Carry Hearing 750 out of committee

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:28 pm
by SC1903A3
My concern about the private school section which states they can decide to allow or not allow after consulting with the faculty, staff and students is that they won't and say they did, then ban chl carry. This leaves the question of what recourse would a person have if the University banned chl carry without consulting members of the University. For the record I work for a private University which has unarmed in-house security.

Re: Log-Summary of Campus Carry Hearing 750 out of committee

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:18 pm
by tbrown
Thanks to RPB for the color commentary.

I got there a half hour early and it was already SRO. I filled out the witness forms for 750 and the others to register my support and checked NO to testifying. I assumed there were already enough people talking and boy was I right.

After turning in my comments, I went down to the overflow room. I watched for a while and the early speakers were pretty good but the later speakers started repeating earlier speakers. Some went completely off the rails, like woman who objected to Cho being called a lunatic. After hearing testimony from some opponents of HB 750, I wondered if they had any clue how many concealed handguns were in that room. I couldn't stay for the whole hearing, so I really appreciate RPB's summary of what I missed.

Tom

P.S. This forum was suggested by someone I met yesterday but I forgot his name. Sorry amigo.

Re: Log-Summary of Campus Carry Hearing 750 out of committee

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:29 pm
by Beiruty
tbrown wrote:Thanks to RPB for the color commentary.

I got there a half hour early and it was already SRO. I filled out the witness forms for 750 and the others to register my support and checked NO to testifying. I assumed there were already enough people talking and boy was I right.

After turning in my comments, I went down to the overflow room. I watched for a while and the early speakers were pretty good but the later speakers started repeating earlier speakers. Some went completely off the rails, like woman who objected to Cho being called a lunatic. After hearing testimony from some opponents of HB 750, I wondered if they had any clue how many concealed handguns were in that room. I couldn't stay for the whole hearing, so I really appreciate RPB's summary of what I missed.

Tom

P.S. This forum was suggested by someone I met yesterday but I forgot his name. Sorry amigo.
Was it legal to carry there? wasn't govermental meeting in session?

Re: Log-Summary of Campus Carry Hearing 750 out of committee

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:38 pm
by tbrown
Beiruty wrote:Was it legal to carry there? wasn't govermental meeting in session?
I have a CHL and it wasn't posted.

Re: Log-Summary of Campus Carry Hearing 750 out of committee

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:42 pm
by txyaloo
Beiruty wrote:
tbrown wrote: Was it legal to carry there? wasn't govermental meeting in session?
It wasn't posted. I spent much of the time playing "spot the gun".

I got a good laugh at the expense of the girl sitting next to me. She was a UT student and was against campus carry. She and I chatted a bit. Little did she know, her elbow was mere inches from my 1911 for about 30 minutes. I wonder if she felt threatened?

Re: Log-Summary of Campus Carry Hearing 750 out of committee

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:50 pm
by Beiruty
:biggrinjester:
txyaloo wrote:
Beiruty wrote:
tbrown wrote: Was it legal to carry there? wasn't govermental meeting in session?
It wasn't posted. I spent much of the time playing "spot the gun".

I got a good laugh at the expense of the girl sitting next to me. She was a UT student and was against campus carry. She and I chatted a bit. Little did she know, her elbow was mere inches from my 1911 for about 30 minutes. I wonder if she felt threatened?
Did you say, Booh! :biggrinjester:

Re: Log-Summary of Campus Carry Hearing 750 out of committee

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:53 pm
by RPB
txyaloo wrote:
Beiruty wrote:
tbrown wrote: Was it legal to carry there? wasn't govermental meeting in session?
It wasn't posted. I spent much of the time playing "spot the gun".

I got a good laugh at the expense of the girl sitting next to me. She was a UT student and was against campus carry. She and I chatted a bit. Little did she know, her elbow was mere inches from my 1911 for about 30 minutes. I wonder if she felt threatened?
:smilelol5: "rlol"


What will be interesting to me is:

If later, car burglaries increase at private schools which opt out, and decrease at public schools where fewer guns will be "stored in cars" This will require informing criminals where guns are stored on the news again, which may occur when this goes into effect after it passes all stages :lol:

Re: Log-Summary of Campus Carry Hearing 750 out of committee

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:23 pm
by Ameer
RPB wrote:March 16, 2:00 P.M.


Now in Progress

Campus Carry Hearing Video Link (RealPlayer)
Is this posted anywhere in a better format? Maybe a highlights reel on youtube? :anamatedbanana

Re: Log-Summary of Campus Carry Hearing 750 out of committee

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:35 pm
by RPB
Ameer wrote:
RPB wrote:March 16, 2:00 P.M.


Now in Progress

Campus Carry Hearing Video Link (RealPlayer)
Is this posted anywhere in a better format? Maybe a highlights reel on youtube? :anamatedbanana
Well, the entire 5 hour/40 minute video archive thing you can fast forward/rewind/pause etc is here http://www.house.state.tx.us/video-audi ... 1031614420" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You can watch in the free realplayer

Re: Log-Summary of Campus Carry Hearing 750 out of committee

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:45 pm
by Ameer
RPB wrote:
Ameer wrote:
RPB wrote:March 16, 2:00 P.M.


Now in Progress

Campus Carry Hearing Video Link (RealPlayer)
Is this posted anywhere in a better format? Maybe a highlights reel on youtube? :anamatedbanana
Well, the entire video archive thing you can scroll through is here http://www.house.state.tx.us/video-audi ... 1031614420" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You can watch in the free realplayer
I went to the site and clicked the link to watch the video but it downloaded a "ram" file to my computer. The "ram" file isn't a real video and neither VLC nor QuickTime will play it. It's really a small text file containing a URL.

The URL is [url]rtsp://realvideoe.house.state.tx.us:554/archives/cmte82/11031614420.rm[/url] but that link does nothing because the protocol (rtsp) isn't associated with any program. That's why I asked if it was posted anywhere in a better format.

Thank you to anyone who can help without installing new software. I already have VLC and QuickTime.

Re: Log-Summary of Campus Carry Hearing 750 out of committee

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:23 pm
by RHenriksen
[quote="AmeerThe URL is [url]rtsp://realvideoe.house.state.tx.us:554/archives/cmte82/11031614420.rm[/url] but that link does nothing because the protocol (rtsp) isn't associated with any program. That's why I asked if it was posted anywhere in a better format.

Thank you to anyone who can help without installing new software. I already have VLC and QuickTime.[/quote]

You have to go to http://www.real.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and download their free Real Player software.

Re: Log-Summary of Campus Carry Hearing 750 out of committee

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:24 pm
by warhorse10_9
Ameer wrote:
RPB wrote:
Ameer wrote:
RPB wrote:March 16, 2:00 P.M.


Now in Progress

Campus Carry Hearing Video Link (RealPlayer)
Is this posted anywhere in a better format? Maybe a highlights reel on youtube? :anamatedbanana
Well, the entire video archive thing you can scroll through is here http://www.house.state.tx.us/video-audi ... 1031614420" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You can watch in the free realplayer
I went to the site and clicked the link to watch the video but it downloaded a "ram" file to my computer. The "ram" file isn't a real video and neither VLC nor QuickTime will play it. It's really a small text file containing a URL.

The URL is [url]rtsp://realvideoe.house.state.tx.us:554/archives/cmte82/11031614420.rm[/url] but that link does nothing because the protocol (rtsp) isn't associated with any program. That's why I asked if it was posted anywhere in a better format.

Thank you to anyone who can help without installing new software. I already have VLC and QuickTime.
VLC plays .ram files for me, at least on my Mac :mrgreen:

Re: Log-Summary of Campus Carry Hearing 750 out of committee

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:27 pm
by Ameer
RHenriksen wrote:
Ameer wrote:Thank you to anyone who can help without installing new software. I already have VLC and QuickTime.
You have to go to http://www.real.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and download their free Real Player software.
No I don't. :lol: