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Blindref757 wrote:I like the friend idea...a trip to the range would be a good thing to try...but I wouldn't buy her another free meal.

If she's sincere in the offer to make it up to him, she'll be willing to pay for their trip to the range. If not, at least he can say he tried.

Sparky3131 wrote:

jmra wrote:

Sparky3131 wrote:She has since called and apologized for 'overreacting' about the whole thing and offered to make it up to me. Ehhh no thanks. I stick to hanging out with my dog

Sounds like a great opportunity to make a convert. Tell her she could make it up to you by going with you to the range.

My father (USMC Ret. Vietnam ) told me once that you should always trust your first instincts. Your gut is usually correct. If that's how she reacts to carrying legally, imagine she when she sees the gun safes in my office. Or my elk, deer and bobcat mounts in my living room. Or finds me cleaning the dove I shot this morning. I'm not in the market for a drama queen. I just divorced one.

Your father was right.

Even if she gets past the guns and hunting stuff, you could look forward to a life of her venting her opinions about you in public. She lacks discretion and maturity. A mature person who hated guns (if there is such a thing) would have graciously gotten through the rest of the date with minimum fuss and would simply not have gone out with you again. She sounds like she comes from that entitled viewpoint where discretion is never called for, because she is entitled, by God, to give you a piece of her mind.........even if doing so was destructive of what was otherwise a nice date. I'd drop her like a hot potato. Anyone who gets in that big of a snit that easily isn't worth your time. Let someone else try to "convert" her......someone for whom there is no possible romantic link, so that she can be clear headed and focused on the task.

She is not mature enough to have a relationship with a mature adult man.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

Sparky3131 wrote:

jmra wrote:

Sparky3131 wrote:She has since called and apologized for 'overreacting' about the whole thing and offered to make it up to me. Ehhh no thanks. I stick to hanging out with my dog

Sounds like a great opportunity to make a convert. Tell her she could make it up to you by going with you to the range.

My father (USMC Ret. Vietnam ) told me once that you should always trust your first instincts. Your gut is usually correct. If that's how she reacts to carrying legally, imagine she when she sees the gun safes in my office. Or my elk, deer and bobcat mounts in my living room. Or finds me cleaning the dove I shot this morning. I'm not in the market for a drama queen. I just divorced one.

Your father was right.

Even if she gets past the guns and hunting stuff, you could look forward to a life of her venting her opinions about you in public. She lacks discretion and maturity. A mature person who hated guns (if there is such a thing) would have graciously gotten through the rest of the date with minimum fuss and would simply not have gone out with you again. She sounds like she comes from that entitled viewpoint where discretion is never called for, because she is entitled, by God, to give you a piece of her mind.........even if doing so was destructive of what was otherwise a nice date. I'd drop her like a hot potato. Anyone who gets in that big of a snit that easily isn't worth your time. Let someone else try to "convert" her......someone for whom there is no possible romantic link, so that she can be clear headed and focused on the task.

She is not mature enough to have a relationship with a mature adult man.

, and I read the highlights to Mrs. Birdman (wife of almost 30 years), and she agrees also!

The Annoyed Man wrote:She is not mature enough to have a relationship with a mature adult man.

Maybe not but most 25 year old men are not very mature, whether or not they're already divorced at that age.

gringo pistolero wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:She is not mature enough to have a relationship with a mature adult man.

Maybe not but most 25 year old men are not very mature, whether or not they're already divorced at that age.

Yeah I'm still hoping I'll grow up one day.

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gringo pistolero wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:She is not mature enough to have a relationship with a mature adult man.

Maybe not but most 25 year old men are not very mature, whether or not they're already divorced at that age.

It's irrelevant to this thread. He behaved with maturity. She did not..........ages notwithstanding.

The Annoyed Man wrote:He behaved with maturity. She did not..........ages notwithstanding.

The story sure reads that way. Maybe you know Sparky personally, but for the rest of us, we only have one side of the story from somebody who joined less than a week ago. I'm going to reserve judgement.

scud runner wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:He behaved with maturity. She did not..........ages notwithstanding.

The story sure reads that way. Maybe you know Sparky personally, but for the rest of us, we only have one side of the story from somebody who joined less than a week ago. I'm going to reserve judgement.

True, we have just one side.........from a guy who passed a background check, took the test, paid the fees, has a steady job, and responsibly carries a 1911, which he seeks to keep concealed according to the law. At no point did he call her names. He described in what seems like a pretty believable fashion, both their parts in the exchange..........and then we have him reporting that she subsequently called him back to apologize for her behavior.....which pretty much substantiates what he wrote in his OP.

I see no inconsistencies here. I tend to give CHL holders the benefit of the doubt, age notwithstanding, when it comes to a judgment of maturity. They have already had to display a measure of that just to get the CHL. Also, I have met a number of 25 year old combat veterans who were far more mature than many men much their seniors. My dad matured on Iwo Jima at age 22.

I have also met plenty of men my own age (61) who behave like children. It's OK to reserve judgement. I just don't see any need to this time around. That's just me. YMMV.