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Re: Carry at holiday parties

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:58 pm
by Dori
03Lightningrocks wrote:Lol... We have officially posted every angle imaginable, like five times and agreed or argued with them no less than twice on each opinion. I love circular threads. :deadhorse:
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Re: Carry at holiday parties

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:29 pm
by jmra
Dori wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:Lol... We have officially posted every angle imaginable, like five times and agreed or argued with them no less than twice on each opinion. I love circular threads. :deadhorse:
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Re: Carry at holiday parties

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:34 pm
by mojo84
I am very respectful of other's beliefs and feelings. I also follow the what they don't know can't hurt them. Well, unless it's justified. ;-)

Re: Carry at holiday parties

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:50 am
by Jihans
mojo84 wrote:I am very respectful of other's beliefs and feelings. I also follow the what they don't know can't hurt them. Well, unless it's justified. ;-)
Is that like It's only against the rules if the ref sees it?

Re: Carry at holiday parties

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:04 pm
by mojo84
Jihans wrote:
mojo84 wrote:I am very respectful of other's beliefs and feelings. I also follow the what they don't know can't hurt them. Well, unless it's justified. ;-)
Is that like It's only against the rules if the ref sees it?
If it is only their beliefs and feelings like I said, I would carry on and keep it to myself. If they asked me not to to carry in their homes, I would respect that and make my decisions accordingly. I'll leave it up to you to determine if it fits your sports analogy. ;-)

Re: Carry at holiday parties

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:19 pm
by The Annoyed Man
mojo84 wrote:
Jihans wrote:
mojo84 wrote:I am very respectful of other's beliefs and feelings. I also follow the what they don't know can't hurt them. Well, unless it's justified. ;-)
Is that like It's only against the rules if the ref sees it?
If it is only their beliefs and feelings like I said, I would carry on and keep it to myself. If they asked me not to to carry in their homes, I would respect that and make my decisions accordingly. I'll leave it up to you to determine if it fits your sports analogy. ;-)
And that is exactly what it takes for us to be respectful of their feelings, and them to be respectful of ours. In order for me to be respectful of a host's wishes, they need to communicate those wishes to me. Otherwise I have no way in the world to know what they are. It's only logical.

So, unless a host communicates his or her wishes to me, I will act on my wishes, which is to go ahead and carry. If a host communicates that they would prefer I did not, then at least I have the option of considering whether or not to attend......and I still might attend, it would just depend on who the person was, and how close I am to them. My mom would freak out of she thought I was carrying a gun, but my brothers would not. My son's inlaws are all trying to get their CHLs so that is a non issue. I don't have any other family in Texas, and my mother and brothers are all in California, the land of hyperventilation. I don't have any friends here who are not gun friendly, so in the end, this is a moot point for me.

But as mojo84 said, unless the rules are communicated, there is no rule. This is Texas. A LOT of people carry guns here. If it is a host's concern that people would carry a gun in their home, then this being Texas, the responsible thing to do is to communicate that concern. If the host doesn't communicate the concern, then how on earth can someone be held responsible for violating that concern?

Re: Carry at holiday parties

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:37 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
The reality is, the level of guilt one feels over carrying a handgun is directly proportional to how one responds when answering the question posed in this thread. :tiphat:

I feel zero guilt about carrying. I feel zero "special citizen" class because I am carrying. I don't feel any different about carrying a handgun on my person than I would a money clip. This renders me incapable of feeling like I am somehow "disrespecting" a person when I am carrying my handgun.

Re: Carry at holiday parties

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:40 pm
by The Annoyed Man
03Lightningrocks wrote:The reality is, the level of guilt one feels over carrying a handgun is directly proportional to how one responds when answering the question posed in this thread. :tiphat:

I feel zero guilt about carrying. I feel zero "special citizen" class because I am carrying. I don't feel any different about carrying a handgun on my person than I would a money clip. This renders me incapable of feeling like I am somehow "disrespecting" a person when I am carrying my handgun.
Exactly. Guilt is not part of it at all, which is one reason why I don't have those kinds of relationships to begin with.

Re: Carry at holiday parties

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:03 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
The Annoyed Man wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:The reality is, the level of guilt one feels over carrying a handgun is directly proportional to how one responds when answering the question posed in this thread. :tiphat:

I feel zero guilt about carrying. I feel zero "special citizen" class because I am carrying. I don't feel any different about carrying a handgun on my person than I would a money clip. This renders me incapable of feeling like I am somehow "disrespecting" a person when I am carrying my handgun.
Exactly. Guilt is not part of it at all, which is one reason why I don't have those kinds of relationships to begin with.
Maybe I am sheltered but I don't personally have any associates, family or friends who are anti gun. I think you mentioned this earlier but my bet is that the person who is anti gun is someone who would have many other opinions that conflict with mine. I don't think I would have to be concerned with an invitation to their party in the first place. :mrgreen:

Re: Carry at holiday parties

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:42 pm
by Oldgringo
03Lightningrocks wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:The reality is, the level of guilt one feels over carrying a handgun is directly proportional to how one responds when answering the question posed in this thread. :tiphat:

I feel zero guilt about carrying. I feel zero "special citizen" class because I am carrying. I don't feel any different about carrying a handgun on my person than I would a money clip. This renders me incapable of feeling like I am somehow "disrespecting" a person when I am carrying my handgun.
Exactly. Guilt is not part of it at all, which is one reason why I don't have those kinds of relationships to begin with.
Maybe I am sheltered but I don't personally have any associates, family or friends who are anti gun. I think you mentioned this earlier but my bet is that the person who is anti gun is someone who would have many other opinions that conflict with mine. I don't think I would have to be concerned with an invitation to their party in the first place. :mrgreen:
Who was it that said, "...birds of a feather oft gather together..." about a dozen or so pages ago?

I can't think of any associates, family or friends who are anti-gun but I do have some of each who are staunch abolitionists when it comes to the subject of strong drink and I occasionally visit in their homes....for a short dry spell. Similarly, they are invited into my home...they usually don't stay past the :cheers2: howdies; choosing instead to :leaving.

Re: Carry at holiday parties

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:03 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Oldgringo wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:The reality is, the level of guilt one feels over carrying a handgun is directly proportional to how one responds when answering the question posed in this thread. :tiphat:

I feel zero guilt about carrying. I feel zero "special citizen" class because I am carrying. I don't feel any different about carrying a handgun on my person than I would a money clip. This renders me incapable of feeling like I am somehow "disrespecting" a person when I am carrying my handgun.
Exactly. Guilt is not part of it at all, which is one reason why I don't have those kinds of relationships to begin with.
Maybe I am sheltered but I don't personally have any associates, family or friends who are anti gun. I think you mentioned this earlier but my bet is that the person who is anti gun is someone who would have many other opinions that conflict with mine. I don't think I would have to be concerned with an invitation to their party in the first place. :mrgreen:
Who was it that said, "...birds of a feather oft gather together..." about a dozen or so pages ago?

I can't think of any associates, family or friends who are anti-gun but I do have some of each who are staunch abolitionists when it comes to the subject of strong drink and I occasionally visit in their homes....for a short dry spell. Similarly, they are invited into my home...they usually don't stay past the :cheers2: howdies; choosing instead to :leaving.
:lol:: I have lost track of who said what.

Re: Carry at holiday parties

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:35 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Dori wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:Lol... We have officially posted every angle imaginable, like five times and agreed or argued with them no less than twice on each opinion. I love circular threads. :deadhorse:
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Great picture Dori!