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srothstein wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:03 pm

C-dub wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:56 pm Why the Sargent was there at that time is going to be of critical importance. I don't think he will be able to claim that he was just out for a drive and happened upon the protest. It is going to be a difficult path for him to navigate.

He said he had just dropped off an Uber fare. Their records should show the exact location and time.

C-dub wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:56 pm Why the Sargent was there at that time is going to be of critical importance. I don't think he will be able to claim that he was just out for a drive and happened upon the protest. It is going to be a difficult path for him to navigate.

According to Broden, Perry dropped off a rideshare customer near Congress Avenue before turning onto Congress Avenue near Fourth Street. Perry, who said he did not know protests were happening that night, found himself surrounded by a group of protesters. Several of the protesters allegedly beat on Perry's car.

Mike S wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:21 pm

C-dub wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:56 pm Why the Sargent was there at that time is going to be of critical importance. I don't think he will be able to claim that he was just out for a drive and happened upon the protest. It is going to be a difficult path for him to navigate.

I politely disagree. He was lawfully present, driving on a public street, making a right hand turn at an intersection that just happened to coincide with a gaggle of people walking up to / through the intersection at about the same exact time.

Unfortunate timing, but I don't see anything that would suggest an unlawful presence or committing a crime.

C-dub wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:48 am

Mike S wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:21 pm

C-dub wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:56 pm Why the Sargent was there at that time is going to be of critical importance. I don't think he will be able to claim that he was just out for a drive and happened upon the protest. It is going to be a difficult path for him to navigate.

I politely disagree. He was lawfully present, driving on a public street, making a right hand turn at an intersection that just happened to coincide with a gaggle of people walking up to / through the intersection at about the same exact time.

Unfortunate timing, but I don't see anything that would suggest an unlawful presence or committing a crime.

Lawful or unlawful presence is one thing, but intent is quite another. I, living in the DFW area, would be within my rights to be present in Austin at the same time the Sargent was, but I don’t have any business being there and it would also be an area I would avoid since I'm not looking for trouble. You’re right, though, that alone doesn’t change the legality of my presence. Unless I am looking for trouble, which I hope is not the case for the Sargent. I would hate to find out he specifically chose to pick up that Uber passenger to place himself in that area intentionally.

Paladin wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:27 pm Whatever it's worth, Infowars is reporting Austin city council/police has video of Foster pointing his AK-47 at cars at previous "peaceful protests" (at approx 11 min in)

The story goes Foster would knock on windows, point his AK-47 at the occupants, and demand they give their verbal support to BLM at gunpoint. Charming

uthornsfan wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:12 pm Images of bullet hole and other damage to Perry's car.

C-dub wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:48 am

Mike S wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:21 pm

C-dub wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:56 pm Why the Sargent was there at that time is going to be of critical importance. I don't think he will be able to claim that he was just out for a drive and happened upon the protest. It is going to be a difficult path for him to navigate.

I politely disagree. He was lawfully present, driving on a public street, making a right hand turn at an intersection that just happened to coincide with a gaggle of people walking up to / through the intersection at about the same exact time.

Unfortunate timing, but I don't see anything that would suggest an unlawful presence or committing a crime.

Lawful or unlawful presence is one thing, but intent is quite another. I, living in the DFW area, would be within my rights to be present in Austin at the same time the Sargent was, but I don’t have any business being there and it would also be an area I would avoid since I'm not looking for trouble. You’re right, though, that alone doesn’t change the legality of my presence. Unless I am looking for trouble, which I hope is not the case for the Sargent. I would hate to find out he specifically chose to pick up that Uber passenger to place himself in that area intentionally.

DEB wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:11 pm Also, due to this shooting as well as other violence in the Austin area, all Fort Hood soldiers cannot got to the Austin area, including Round Rock/Pluggerville and etc without the express approval from the 1st 0-6 in their Chain of Command (usually the Brigade Commander).