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Taypo wrote:

EEllis wrote:

VMI77 wrote:
You and others keep saying it looks like a bomb or a hoax bomb...hooey. As the photo above shows it looks like, and is, a disassembled alarm clock. I get that scientific and technical knowledge in this country is at pretty pathetic levels, but one would pretty much have to be a technophobe or have a pretty lurid imagination to turn something so obviously prosaic into an explosive device. The idea of a hoax bomb is to make people think it's a bomb. That could have easily been accomplished by adding something that could be mistaken for an explosive charge. That "hoax bomb" wouldn't have hoaxed my grandma.

I guess we need a new law making it illegal to disassemble an alarm clock, or defining disassembled alarm clocks as "hoax bombs," otherwise, charging this kid with a crime like making a hoax bomb, and getting it to stick, may be a little difficult.

At this point, anyone who thinks it looks like a bomb is obviously an idiot because there's no big cannonball with a burning fuse in there to make it go boom? We're supposed to be impressed that little Ahmed is smart enough to buy a clock, dismantle a clock and put it back together again inside a suitcase, for no apparent reason, nefarious or otherwise?

VMI77 wrote:

Taypo wrote:

EEllis wrote:

VMI77 wrote:
You and others keep saying it looks like a bomb or a hoax bomb...hooey. As the photo above shows it looks like, and is, a disassembled alarm clock. I get that scientific and technical knowledge in this country is at pretty pathetic levels, but one would pretty much have to be a technophobe or have a pretty lurid imagination to turn something so obviously prosaic into an explosive device. The idea of a hoax bomb is to make people think it's a bomb. That could have easily been accomplished by adding something that could be mistaken for an explosive charge. That "hoax bomb" wouldn't have hoaxed my grandma.

I guess we need a new law making it illegal to disassemble an alarm clock, or defining disassembled alarm clocks as "hoax bombs," otherwise, charging this kid with a crime like making a hoax bomb, and getting it to stick, may be a little difficult.

At this point, anyone who thinks it looks like a bomb is obviously an idiot because there's no big cannonball with a burning fuse in there to make it go boom? We're supposed to be impressed that little Ahmed is smart enough to buy a clock, dismantle a clock and put it back together again inside a suitcase, for no apparent reason, nefarious or otherwise?

The reason is plenty apparent, as I've previously stated....it just doesn't fit your desire to see it as something more nefarious than a not too smart kid seeking credit for something he didn't do. Occam's razor.

Taypo wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

Taypo wrote:

EEllis wrote:

VMI77 wrote:
You and others keep saying it looks like a bomb or a hoax bomb...hooey. As the photo above shows it looks like, and is, a disassembled alarm clock. I get that scientific and technical knowledge in this country is at pretty pathetic levels, but one would pretty much have to be a technophobe or have a pretty lurid imagination to turn something so obviously prosaic into an explosive device. The idea of a hoax bomb is to make people think it's a bomb. That could have easily been accomplished by adding something that could be mistaken for an explosive charge. That "hoax bomb" wouldn't have hoaxed my grandma.

I guess we need a new law making it illegal to disassemble an alarm clock, or defining disassembled alarm clocks as "hoax bombs," otherwise, charging this kid with a crime like making a hoax bomb, and getting it to stick, may be a little difficult.

At this point, anyone who thinks it looks like a bomb is obviously an idiot because there's no big cannonball with a burning fuse in there to make it go boom? We're supposed to be impressed that little Ahmed is smart enough to buy a clock, dismantle a clock and put it back together again inside a suitcase, for no apparent reason, nefarious or otherwise?

The reason is plenty apparent, as I've previously stated....it just doesn't fit your desire to see it as something more nefarious than a not too smart kid seeking credit for something he didn't do. Occam's razor.

We're going with "dumb kid is trying to look smart by reassembling a clock in a briefcase" rather than "Son of a Sudanese political activist with ties to CAIR brings a bomb with everything but the boom to school."

Got it.

EEllis wrote:

goose wrote:[

If there was a criminal investigation going on, I hope they offered him legal counsel and such. I honestly know nothing about how that works with minors.

If they did something they shouldn't then they can't use what info they acquired. I assume they conducted themselves in a legal manner mainly because it's in their own self interest.

philip964 wrote: ...Has Obama invited the three Marines who stopped the terrorist attack in France to the White House yet?

philip964 wrote:

EEllis wrote:

goose wrote:[

If there was a criminal investigation going on, I hope they offered him legal counsel and such. I honestly know nothing about how that works with minors.

If they did something they shouldn't then they can't use what info they acquired. I assume they conducted themselves in a legal manner mainly because it's in their own self interest.

My understanding a police officer is not to conduct criminal questioning of a minor without permission of his parents.

I do not think they got the permission of his parents. So why question him if it was all going to be inadmissible? Was it an emergency, they could not tell it was not a bomb so they needed to question him on how to prevent the explosion and loss of life at the school?

Or was everyone really wanting him to have his 15 minutes of fame, and show the world Texas is full of racists? Is the lawsuit next, will the taxpayers of Irving now have pay the family a settlement from both the school district and the city

VMI77 wrote: . . .
As to the red...I already gave my answer in a previous post: putting the disassembled clock in something other than the original enclosure makes it look "homemade." His motive was probably to claim he created something when he actually did not. The case is 8"x5.5"x2"....pretty small...and he didn't add anything that looks like explosive material which would be easy to do. Another reason for the case is to carry the disassembled parts.....how else could he transport his "invention" except in some kind of box? . . .

SA_Steve wrote:Pretty clear they knew it was not a bomb from the get-go.
no evacuation
folks wait in the same room with the clock for the cops to come

maybe they figured if it was not plugged into the 110 V wall socket that it was safe enough

Schleprock wrote:I had not read the entirety of the 10 pages so I apologize if previously mentioned, but will the "cool clock" need to undergo SS scrutiny and inspection upon presentation at the White House?