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Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:21 am
by Glockster
338winmag wrote:What we need is some gun friendly media to bring this out in the open. Unfortunately nothing like that exists.
I'd rather see the other side run with this and talk about how the concerns over the new laws aren't an issue because clearly the 2A folks aren't able to get the AG's office to take actions. That might just spur someone into action.

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:25 am
by anygunanywhere
joe817 wrote:
TexasCajun wrote:I've received a copy of the letter that the AG's office has sent to Harris County Sports & Convention Corp & cc'd Harris Co Judge Ed Emmett. The letter says that OAG has received a complaint & is investigating it. They have 10 days to respond and/or provide any relevant information. The letter was sent from Zindia Thomas, Assistant Attorney General in the Administrative Law Division.
FINALLY!! Great news TexasCajun! Your efforts paid off. :thumbs2:

The system appears to be working, at least so far. Please keep us informed.
From the looks of things the resolution will be reached just in time to be able to carry after the rodeo is over. Perfect!

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:36 am
by TexasCajun
anygunanywhere wrote:
joe817 wrote:
TexasCajun wrote:I've received a copy of the letter that the AG's office has sent to Harris County Sports & Convention Corp & cc'd Harris Co Judge Ed Emmett. The letter says that OAG has received a complaint & is investigating it. They have 10 days to respond and/or provide any relevant information. The letter was sent from Zindia Thomas, Assistant Attorney General in the Administrative Law Division.
FINALLY!! Great news TexasCajun! Your efforts paid off. :thumbs2:

The system appears to be working, at least so far. Please keep us informed.
From the looks of things the resolution will be reached just in time to be able to carry after the rodeo is over. Perfect!
At this point everything is a win. If they take the signs down it's a win - not only for whatever remains of this year's event but for future events. If they don't take the signs down, it's still a win because we can go to the legislature next session with improvements to the law.

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:55 am
by puma guy
TexasCajun wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:
joe817 wrote:
TexasCajun wrote:I've received a copy of the letter that the AG's office has sent to Harris County Sports & Convention Corp & cc'd Harris Co Judge Ed Emmett. The letter says that OAG has received a complaint & is investigating it. They have 10 days to respond and/or provide any relevant information. The letter was sent from Zindia Thomas, Assistant Attorney General in the Administrative Law Division.
FINALLY!! Great news TexasCajun! Your efforts paid off. :thumbs2:

The system appears to be working, at least so far. Please keep us informed.
From the looks of things the resolution will be reached just in time to be able to carry after the rodeo is over. Perfect!
At this point everything is a win. If they take the signs down it's a win - not only for whatever remains of this year's event but for future events. If they don't take the signs down, it's still a win because we can go to the legislature next session with improvements to the law.
A FaceBook acquaintance of mine posted a picture of himself and some other HLSRA board members with Governor Abbott who was visiting. I wonder if he mentioned the signs.

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:56 am
by goose
TexasCajun wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:
joe817 wrote:
TexasCajun wrote:I've received a copy of the letter that the AG's office has sent to Harris County Sports & Convention Corp & cc'd Harris Co Judge Ed Emmett. The letter says that OAG has received a complaint & is investigating it. They have 10 days to respond and/or provide any relevant information. The letter was sent from Zindia Thomas, Assistant Attorney General in the Administrative Law Division.
FINALLY!! Great news TexasCajun! Your efforts paid off. :thumbs2:

The system appears to be working, at least so far. Please keep us informed.
From the looks of things the resolution will be reached just in time to be able to carry after the rodeo is over. Perfect!
At this point everything is a win. If they take the signs down it's a win - not only for whatever remains of this year's event but for future events. If they don't take the signs down, it's still a win because we can go to the legislature next session with improvements to the law.
Agreed. IF the AG takes this seriously enough to act on it, there is no real way for the rodeo committee to claim ignorance next year. TexasCajun, you have done us all a great service. What larger venue could be found to send the message down to the smaller operators and cities? While I am disappointed in the number of cases they seem to be acting on, this is potentially a huge one in terms of precedence.

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:59 am
by TexasCajun
Funny thing is I don't even like the rodeo & will only go if we get free tickets. I think this one just hit me for some reason.

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:06 am
by anygunanywhere
A win.....for next year? You just made my point. The HLSR will have a case of amnesia next year.

I predict right now that nothing happens and the rodeo powers that be do the exact same thing next year and ignore the law.

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:24 am
by winters
TexasCajun wrote:Funny thing is I don't even like the rodeo & will only go if we get free tickets. I think this one just hit me for some reason.
I won't even go with free tickets.

The problem is there is no punishment for the AG to take as much time as they want.

Ofcourse they are going to forget next year. The rodeo is nothing more then a good ol boys club.

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:02 pm
by goose
anygunanywhere wrote:A win.....for next year? You just made my point. The HLSR will have a case of amnesia next year.

I predict right now that nothing happens and the rodeo powers that be do the exact same thing next year and ignore the law.
I am not disagreeing, just posing the question: If a group is allowed to have amnesia, what is to keep a city from posting a building, getting ten days notice taking the signs down for a day or two and then putting them back up, repeat ad nauseum? Granted, we may simply be dealing with uncharted waters. But lets chart them!

Edit: Granted if no one is ever made to take them down................................................................

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:08 pm
by JP171
goose wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:A win.....for next year? You just made my point. The HLSR will have a case of amnesia next year.

I predict right now that nothing happens and the rodeo powers that be do the exact same thing next year and ignore the law.
I am not disagreeing, just posing the question: If a group is allowed to have amnesia, what is to keep a city from posting a building, getting ten days notice taking the signs down for a day or two and then putting them back up, repeat ad nauseum? Granted, we may simply be dealing with uncharted waters. But lets chart them!

Edit: Granted if no one is ever made to take them down................................................................
that's what the zoo is for

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:13 pm
by goose
JP171 wrote:
goose wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:A win.....for next year? You just made my point. The HLSR will have a case of amnesia next year.

I predict right now that nothing happens and the rodeo powers that be do the exact same thing next year and ignore the law.
I am not disagreeing, just posing the question: If a group is allowed to have amnesia, what is to keep a city from posting a building, getting ten days notice taking the signs down for a day or two and then putting them back up, repeat ad nauseum? Granted, we may simply be dealing with uncharted waters. But lets chart them!

Edit: Granted if no one is ever made to take them down................................................................
that's what the zoo is for
It would be an incredible shame in our supposedly conservative state, with a supposedly conservative AG, that we would have to add penalties for an AG not doing their job. "I'm all about the 2nd amendment until I get into office. Then, meh. Maybe I'll get around to it."

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:15 pm
by TexasCajun
anygunanywhere wrote:A win.....for next year? You just made my point. The HLSR will have a case of amnesia next year.

I predict right now that nothing happens and the rodeo powers that be do the exact same thing next year and ignore the law.
Then that would provide the basis for further changes. If an entity deliberately tries to ignore or circumvent the law, even the good ol boys are going to eventually get slapped upside the head.

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:34 pm
by anygunanywhere
TexasCajun wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:A win.....for next year? You just made my point. The HLSR will have a case of amnesia next year.

I predict right now that nothing happens and the rodeo powers that be do the exact same thing next year and ignore the law.
Then that would provide the basis for further changes. If an entity deliberately tries to ignore or circumvent the law, even the good ol boys are going to eventually get slapped upside the head.
This law was supposedly to "slap the good ol boys upside the head". How many laws doing the same is it going to take?

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:47 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
anygunanywhere wrote:
TexasCajun wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:A win.....for next year? You just made my point. The HLSR will have a case of amnesia next year.

I predict right now that nothing happens and the rodeo powers that be do the exact same thing next year and ignore the law.
Then that would provide the basis for further changes. If an entity deliberately tries to ignore or circumvent the law, even the good ol boys are going to eventually get slapped upside the head.
This law was supposedly to "slap the good ol boys upside the head". How many laws doing the same is it going to take?
Stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:56 pm
by mreed911
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
I think we all would... if the AG would just Start!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: