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I hope not.philip964 wrote:I have my bets on Zimmerman and Zimmerman's wife plead guilty to perjury and money laundering, murder charges dismissed. No trial.
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Heartland Patriot wrote:I've got a question. Hypothetical, of course. I've never been an LEO, so if what I posit is impossible, please let me know. If a "bad guy" were casing (sorry if that isn't the correct term or its outdated) places to rob and he got interrupted, why that MIGHT put a little irritation in him, right? And he MIGHT get a little agitated that he was being interrupted, right? And that might make him mad enough to want to "whoop" the someone who interrupted him, right? And yes, I know what I'm asking...but if some are going to suggest (even if not saying it exactly) that GZ was going far beyond his instructions as NW, and that he got overzealous and somehow created a situation that lead to the tragic conclusion we know of, then can't it also be suggested that maybe a kid, who was already in some hot water, might have been looking for more trouble to get into, and then found some? And got mad when he got interrupted? Now, of course, I don't know if that is true in the very least...but if we can assume one thing about GZ, then why not assume something else about TM, as well? Though, I'm only doing this to play the "devil's advocate".
If TM had lived there would have been a three line news story in the back pages of the local paper and we would not be having this conversation.gringo pistolero wrote:Especially if the cops charged him with assault for starting the fight.jocat54 wrote:Now, since hypotheticals are fun, what if TM happened to have survived this whole shindig and was able to provide his own testimony? That would be interesting, huh? [ /quote]
WOW! That would really start things up.
Absolutely! That's it in a nutshell.jmra wrote:If TM had lived there would have been a three line news story in the back pages of the local paper and we would not be having this conversation.gringo pistolero wrote:Especially if the cops charged him with assault for starting the fight.jocat54 wrote:Now, since hypotheticals are fun, what if TM happened to have survived this whole shindig and was able to provide his own testimony? That would be interesting, huh? [ /quote]
WOW! That would really start things up.
Usually, taking a lie detector test only has a downside. If you fail it you look guilty. If you pass it you can't use it in court to defend yourself. If you pass it people may think you're a pathological liar or sociopath.philip964 wrote:Well this sort of breaks it wide open again.
Zimmerman in his complete openness about what happened, voluntarily with out the representation of an attorney, took a lie detector test and passed it the day after the shooting.
He was asked did you confront Trayvon Martin? No.
Were you afraid for your life when you shot Trayvon Martin? Yes.
Both answers per the machine were correct.
Not sure why this information was not released sooner, like to save the police chief's job, or keep Zimmerman from getting death threats. If I passed a lie detector test, I certainly would want everyone to know.
Most people won't take a lie detector test. ie: O. J. Simpson as an example.
It wouldn't have mattered anyway...which is what I think WildBill is alluding to. Even assuming that everyone takes the results of a lie detector as the truth, a lynch mob isn't appeased by the truth because their objective isn't justice, it's to hang someone.philip964 wrote:Well this sort of breaks it wide open again.
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Zimmerman in his complete openness about what happened, voluntarily with out the representation of an attorney, took a lie detector test and passed it the day after the shooting.
He was asked did you confront Trayvon Martin? No.
Were you afraid for your life when you shot Trayvon Martin? Yes.
Both answers per the machine were correct.
Not sure why this information was not released sooner, like to save the police chief's job, or keep Zimmerman from getting death threats. If I passed a lie detector test, I certainly would want everyone to know.
Most people won't take a lie detector test. ie: O. J. Simpson as an example.
We are now nearing 100 pages on this thread (and probably still counting). Think of the number of pages that could have been eliminated had the above quote simply been repeated.VMI77 wrote:... a lynch mob isn't appeased by the truth because their objective isn't justice, it's to hang someone.
News from March.WildBill wrote:Trayvon's mother has applied for trademarks for various products using her dead son's name.
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Oops.sjfcontrol wrote:News from March.WildBill wrote:Trayvon's mother has applied for trademarks for various products using her dead son's name.
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