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Many, many years ago when I worked at 7-11 the policy was let robbers take whatever they wanted….losing your life wasn’t worth trying to stop them.

The clerk should never have left the store, much less shot at the robbers.

Grayling813 wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:43 pm Many, many years ago when I worked at 7-11 the policy was let robbers take whatever they wanted….losing your life wasn’t worth trying to stop them.

The clerk should never have left the store, much less shot at the robbers.

It is a bad deal probably 99% of time to shoot at someone fleeing.

03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:19 pm I just can't imagine shooting at someone over a couple cases of beer.

Really, really dumb - I can understand the feeling of outrage, but you shouldn't shoot someone for that.

The way I read the law, it may be justified and it may be murder. If it was his own beer, I believe he would be legally justified under PC Section 9.42. The problem might be 9.43(2). It was protection of a third party's property, so under 9.43(1) it had to be theft or criminal mischief (and it is confusing if the theft had to be at night or not) AND under 9.43(2) he had to have been asked by the owner to defend the property or believe he had a legal duty to do so. That asked by the owner can be the problem in his defense because, as was pointed out, many stores say to just let it go as not worth risking your life.

There have been several cases I remember of theft at night here in Houston where the shooter was no billed. But that was twenty years ago. Different DA. Different time.

There was the case that made the news recently in Houston where a next door neighbor killed two men leaving with his neighbors stuff at night. It went to trial and the jury said not guilty. But that was pretty disruptive to the old mans life.

I remember it was brought up did the neighbor say protect my house?

philip964 wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:27 pm There have been several cases I remember of theft at night here in Houston where the shooter was no billed. But that was twenty years ago. Different DA. Different time.

There was the case that made the news recently in Houston where a next door neighbor killed two men leaving with his neighbors stuff at night. It went to trial and the jury said not guilty. But that was pretty disruptive to the old mans life.

I remember it was brought up did the neighbor say protect my house?

I remember the one in Pasadena. I think it was a case were the neighbor had ask him to keep an eye on the place. There was a running thread on that one. It became quite "emotional" at times....LOL.

03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:19 pm I just can't imagine shooting at someone over a couple cases of beer. Unless it is Shiner Bock...

But seriously. It wasn't even his beer. No matter the outcome, it just isn't worth the hassle. I carry my weapon for self defense, not to be law enforcement.

It's hard to say, if that robber is pointing a gun at you. Death Row is full of people who robbed a convenience store and shot the clerk. Now if the robber just picks up a case of beer and walks out with it, that's a different matter.

What Ruark said. Shoplifting, or robbery?

03Lightningrocks wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 1:01 am

philip964 wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:27 pm There have been several cases I remember of theft at night here in Houston where the shooter was no billed. But that was twenty years ago. Different DA. Different time.

There was the case that made the news recently in Houston where a next door neighbor killed two men leaving with his neighbors stuff at night. It went to trial and the jury said not guilty. But that was pretty disruptive to the old mans life.

I remember it was brought up did the neighbor say protect my house?

I remember the one in Pasadena. I think it was a case were the neighbor had ask him to keep an eye on the place. There was a running thread on that one. It became quite "emotional" at times....LOL.

Joe Horn case. he was no billed by a grand jury.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Horn_ ... ontroversy

Although I wouldn’t hesitate to protect innocent life by taking a criminal’s life, I still think that there is likely a post event emotional struggle that would likely ensue. I don’t think taking life is something you just shrug off. How much more then, should restraint be exercised when someone is out in the parking lot with a few stolen cases of beer (doesn’t even have to be related to the current case). How can someone have a conscious and do such a thing?

Whether all the facts are known or not in this case, this situation should make people think. So, maybe the clerk was threatened outside with a weapon by the thieves and his actions are warranted. So I’m not criticizing his actions yet, but only considering one possible scenario which may have transpired.