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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:57 pm
by TC-TX
ELB wrote: I suspect there is more to the Carter Albrecht story than has been adequately covered in the press, but I hesitate to judge that one. As a general rule, I would not recommend shooting at loud noises at the door.

elb
Actually - unfortunately - there is not...

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:27 am
by boomerang
ELB wrote:As a general rule, I would not recommend shooting at loud noises at the door.
+1

As another general rule, I would not recommend drinking enough to have a BAC well over .2 and then taking certain prescription drugs. If you must do so, then I don't recommend hitting a woman and chasing her. If you do, and she locks you out of her house, I don't recommend yelling and pounding on a neighbor's door in the middle of the night. If you really have to do all of those things, then I strongly recommend you leave ASAP when the neighbor tells you to go away.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:06 am
by TacShot
Believing the Albrecht shooting was a justifiable use of deadly force, places the rest of your life and fortune in serious jeopardy.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:30 am
by Renegade
TacShot wrote:Believing the Albrecht shooting was a justifiable use of deadly force, places the rest of your life and fortune in serious jeopardy.
It was justified, If you have evidence to the contrary, please post. But last I heard the Police, DA and GJ decided it was justified and no charges were filed.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:38 am
by seamusTX
I don't how much thread drift is tolerated before the moderators step in.

No one ever said you should shoot the Avon lady or trick-or-treaters. My reference to banging (forceful pounding) on the door was meant as something that would cause you to go into condition orange just short of red.

Can I rephrase my original response? When you are at home, you know who belongs there and who doesn't. You also control the premises. Neither of those conditions is true when you are in someone else's house. Maybe their eccentric uncle likes to enter the house through windows, and they tolerate it.

- Jim

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:18 pm
by Snake Doctor
The amount of dissonance from original topics on some of these threads is just getting ridiculous. Who said anything about opeing fire on a door just because someone is banging? The point I think Jim (and others after) were trying to make was not that a heavy knock or pound on the door constitutes a hail of gunfire, but rather, just to be aware of what's going on. If someone comes banging at night and you just casually open the door without knowing who's on the other side... yikes... message board arguments are the least of your worries.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:10 pm
by TacShot
Renegade wrote:
It was justified, If you have evidence to the contrary, please post. But last I heard the Police, DA and GJ decided it was justified and no charges were filed.
It hasn't gone to the GJ yet!

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:34 am
by Renegade
TacShot wrote:Renegade wrote:
It was justified, If you have evidence to the contrary, please post. But last I heard the Police, DA and GJ decided it was justified and no charges were filed.
It hasn't gone to the GJ yet!
Thanks, how do you find these things out?

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:28 pm
by TacShot
I followed your suggestion and googled Carter Albeccht.

Re: (Another) Castle Doctrine Question

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:37 pm
by 9mmGuy
seamusTX wrote:
alphonso wrote:Example, staying with my in laws in Dallas...If I'm in THEIR house do I have the same rules governing as if it was my house?
Yes.

Here's the catch: If you are in your home, and someone is banging on the door, you know that person doesn't belong there and is attempting to commit a crime.

In another person's home, you don't know what kind of shady stuff they might have going on. I'm not saying your in-laws would be involved in something like that, but in general.

- Jim
holy smokes the post that started all this never even said that banging on a door was a crime!! it says that the person is attempting a crime!!

geez people