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srothstein wrote:In addition to the above suggestions, I might add that a little camouflage can work wonders. No, not a camo pattern on the cloth, but say a fanny pack that you have sewn a "Canon" or "Nikon" label to. it makes people think it is a camera pack instead of just screamin g gun like you might think they do.

Someone here sometime back posted pics of a screamin' neon fanny pack with a Million Moms March logo on it.

KBCraig wrote:

srothstein wrote:In addition to the above suggestions, I might add that a little camouflage can work wonders. No, not a camo pattern on the cloth, but say a fanny pack that you have sewn a "Canon" or "Nikon" label to. it makes people think it is a camera pack instead of just screamin g gun like you might think they do.

Someone here sometime back posted pics of a screamin' neon fanny pack with a Million Moms March logo on it.

That is baiting.

Might work too.

Anygunanywhere

Thanks for the advise. I'm going to go try to find a low profile fanny pack, and may also work on the slight of hand.

I'm going to go try to find a low profile fanny pack,

You might check out the Camelbak Goblin, which combines a fanny pack and hydration system similar to a type that folks use when exercising. It attracts virtually no attention. View the link at:

http://www.camelbak.com.au/secureshop/p ... &cat_id=39

I used to have a small scooter and I remember the lock being more of a formality than security. Not something I would want to leave a firearm in. Do what you can to beef up the lock. In addition see if you can figure out a way to put a Kypton cable with a real lock on it. You can then secure the cable and firearm directly to the frame. It may take some drilling or cutting to gain access to the underside and frame but it will deter the guy with a screwdriver that pries your compartment open.

I did such in my truck as the console doesn't lock (not that the oem lock is worth anything). I used an eyebolt with the cable. Eyebolt is bolted through the floorpan and cotterpinned on the underside. Cable goes through the eye, through the trigger guard (after safety unloading and clearing...and rechecking), then a sturdy lock is attached.

You will have to be creative to disarm, unload, and clear the weapon out in the open. Maybe there is an out-of-the-way place where you can discreetly take care of business.

It's not 100% but it will get through a smash and grab. Bolt cutters would even have a harder time since it is a tight compartment. I don't leave it locked up for extended periods or overnight.

Just the thought of leaving a firearm on a motorbike is a tad scary to me. Be careful and think it out.

Kyptonite cable for bike seats. I know it can hold up to some attacks as I have a mauled one that someone thought they could cut through to get a tool box. I still have the toolbox and cable.
http://www.kryptonitelock.com/Products/ ... 1&pid=1122

troglodyte wrote:I used to have a small scooter and I remember the lock being more of a formality than security. Not something I would want to leave a firearm in. Do what you can to beef up the lock. In addition see if you can figure out a way to put a Kypton cable with a real lock on it. You can then secure the cable and firearm directly to the frame. It may take some drilling or cutting to gain access to the underside and frame but it will deter the guy with a screwdriver that pries your compartment open.

I did such in my truck as the console doesn't lock (not that the oem lock is worth anything). I used an eyebolt with the cable. Eyebolt is bolted through the floorpan and cotterpinned on the underside. Cable goes through the eye, through the trigger guard (after safety unloading and clearing...and rechecking), then a sturdy lock is attached.

You will have to be creative to disarm, unload, and clear the weapon out in the open. Maybe there is an out-of-the-way place where you can discreetly take care of business.

It's not 100% but it will get through a smash and grab. Bolt cutters would even have a harder time since it is a tight compartment. I don't leave it locked up for extended periods or overnight.

Just the thought of leaving a firearm on a motorbike is a tad scary to me. Be careful and think it out.

Kyptonite cable for bike seats. I know it can hold up to some attacks as I have a mauled one that someone thought they could cut through to get a tool box. I still have the toolbox and cable.
http://www.kryptonitelock.com/Products/ ... 1&pid=1122

If we had a change in the law that allowed CHL holders to carry at a university, then I wouldn't have any problem.

troglodyte wrote: You will have to be creative to disarm, unload, and clear the weapon out in the open. Maybe there is an out-of-the-way place where you can discreetly take care of business.

Why would he need to unload and clear a SD weapon that he is securing in a locked compartment? Not only does this prevent quick access to a usable firearm should the need arise, but introduces unnecessary handling of the weapon in a public area. The only time my carry pistol is unloaded is between mags at the range, when showing it to someone else, and during cleaning. There's no good reason to clear the gun when stowing it away like this.

NcongruNt wrote:

troglodyte wrote: You will have to be creative to disarm, unload, and clear the weapon out in the open. Maybe there is an out-of-the-way place where you can discreetly take care of business.

Why would he need to unload and clear a SD weapon that he is securing in a locked compartment? Not only does this prevent quick access to a usable firearm should the need arise, but introduces unnecessary handling of the weapon in a public area. The only time my carry pistol is unloaded is between mags at the range, when showing it to someone else, and during cleaning. There's no good reason to clear the gun when stowing it away like this.

I agree. I would keep mine ready to fire at all times unless needed to be unloaded such as cleaning or instructed by an officer or worker at the gun range. There have been many reports of people being robbed in the parking lots as they go to their vehicle. In the event that were to occur, I want to be ready. I would hate to be killed by a thug when I have an unloaded pistol on me.

NcongruNt wrote: The only time my carry pistol is unloaded is between mags at the range, when showing it to someone else, and during cleaning. There's no good reason to clear the gun when stowing it away like this.

you forgot Dry Fire practice...

DoubleJ wrote:

NcongruNt wrote: The only time my carry pistol is unloaded is between mags at the range, when showing it to someone else, and during cleaning. There's no good reason to clear the gun when stowing it away like this.

you forgot Dry Fire practice...

You are correct.

A camera bag sounds like a bad idea because cameras are also targets for thieves.

You could also get a Maxpedition pack. They have many different sizes and styles. It is not uncommon to see someone on a Bike with a backpack of sorts. Not to mention it looks MUCH better than a fanny pack.

srothstein wrote:In addition to the above suggestions, I might add that a little camouflage can work wonders. No, not a camo pattern on the cloth, but say a fanny pack that you have sewn a "Canon" or "Nikon" label to. it makes people think it is a camera pack instead of just screamin g gun like you might think they do.

Great suggestion!

NcongruNt wrote:

troglodyte wrote: You will have to be creative to disarm, unload, and clear the weapon out in the open. Maybe there is an out-of-the-way place where you can discreetly take care of business.

Why would he need to unload and clear a SD weapon that he is securing in a locked compartment? Not only does this prevent quick access to a usable firearm should the need arise, but introduces unnecessary handling of the weapon in a public area. The only time my carry pistol is unloaded is between mags at the range, when showing it to someone else, and during cleaning. There's no good reason to clear the gun when stowing it away like this.

This is in the event he is running a cable through the trigger guard.