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Re: deranged shooter in workplace DHS wisdom
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:05 pm
by nitrogen
KC5AV wrote:"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." ~ The Dalai Lama
There's a reason that quote is in my .sig!!
Love it!
Re: deranged shooter in workplace DHS wisdom
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:21 pm
by Mithras61
From the booklet:
Because active shooter situations are often over
within 10 to 15 minutes, before law enforcement
arrives on the scene, individuals must be prepared
both mentally and physically to deal with an active
shooter situation.
Remember, when seconds count...

Re: deranged shooter in workplace DHS wisdom
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:27 pm
by charlie
Thanks for posting.
Re: deranged shooter in workplace DHS wisdom
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:38 pm
by JPGIII
Thanks for sharing. It was an interesting read. There is some great ideas for those not comfortable carrying their own weapons IF the shooter is not in their general vicinity. But the ridiculousness of it all really becomes evident when the shoot is right in front of you and your life is "in imminent danger"
Yell?
Throw things?
"Acting as aggressively as possible against him/her" ... ... ... crap, there's no smiley face lying bloody on the floor w/ Xs over his eyes
Seriously!! Someone has a gun, is shooting, and their best advice is acting aggressively?
My favorite is "improvising weapons" ... you see, my 'improvised' weapon is my Glock 23.
10 to 15 minutes is the average length of an incident? It'd be 10-15 seconds if there was a responsible handgun carrier in that vicinity.
Legal or not... (see sig)
Re: deranged shooter in workplace DHS wisdom
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:33 pm
by bryang
Thanks, Charlie, for posting the article it was intresting.
KC5AV wrote:"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." ~ The Dalai Lama
However, this quote says it all.
-geo
Re: deranged shooter in workplace DHS wisdom
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:07 pm
by Stupid
KC5AV wrote:"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." ~ The Dalai Lama
I would be more careful when quoting Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama was the political and religious ruler of Tibet - dictator, to be exact. The Chinese army's "invasion" changed all that. Dalai tried many times to restore his ruling but failed. In almost all his failed attempts, he relied heavily on foreign countries such as USA, which made him one of the biggest traitors in the view of the Chinese.
Read it a bit and understand his life/history a little more. here, a piece of quote from wikipedia:
"However, during 1959, there was a major uprising among the Tibetan population... Central Intelligence Agency paramilitary teams from their Special Activities Division were responsible for the Dalai Lama's successful clandestine escape from Tibet and the initial resistance fighters in Tibet to the Chinese communist forces."
See how nicely they worded "paramilitary teams?"
I am sure we can pick a proper term which is widely used today.
Re: deranged shooter in workplace DHS wisdom
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:40 am
by jimlongley
Stupid wrote:KC5AV wrote:"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." ~ The Dalai Lama
I would be more careful when quoting Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama was the political and religious ruler of Tibet - dictator, to be exact. The Chinese army's "invasion" changed all that. Dalai tried many times to restore his ruling but failed. In almost all his failed attempts, he relied heavily on foreign countries such as USA, which made him one of the biggest traitors in the view of the Chinese.
Read it a bit and understand his life/history a little more. here, a piece of quote from wikipedia:
"However, during 1959, there was a major uprising among the Tibetan population... Central Intelligence Agency paramilitary teams from their Special Activities Division were responsible for the Dalai Lama's successful clandestine escape from Tibet and the initial resistance fighters in Tibet to the Chinese communist forces."
See how nicely they worded "paramilitary teams?"
I am sure we can pick a proper term which is widely used today.
Boy do you have some homework to do.
Re: deranged shooter in workplace DHS wisdom
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:22 pm
by Fangs
I like this one: "Quickly determine the most reasonable way to protect your own life."
Now that's easy to do.

Re: deranged shooter in workplace DHS wisdom
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:57 pm
by subsonic

Remember, if you surrender to fear, the terrorists win.
When evacuating, pull over and enjoy a nice sunset.
Or a thermonuclear blast. Whatever's handy.
Re: deranged shooter in workplace DHS wisdom
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:34 am
by austin-tatious
JPGIII wrote:
"Acting as aggressively as possible against him/her" ... ... ... crap, there's no smiley face lying bloody on the floor w/ Xs over his eyes
Here you go...
/(X_X)\
Re: deranged shooter in workplace DHS wisdom
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:38 am
by Liberty
Stupid wrote:KC5AV wrote:"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." ~ The Dalai Lama
I would be more careful when quoting Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama was the political and religious ruler of Tibet - dictator, to be exact. The Chinese army's "invasion" changed all that. Dalai tried many times to restore his ruling but failed. In almost all his failed attempts, he relied heavily on foreign countries such as USA, which made him one of the biggest traitors in the view of the Chinese.
Read it a bit and understand his life/history a little more. here, a piece of quote from wikipedia:
"However, during 1959, there was a major uprising among the Tibetan population... Central Intelligence Agency paramilitary teams from their Special Activities Division were responsible for the Dalai Lama's successful clandestine escape from Tibet and the initial resistance fighters in Tibet to the Chinese communist forces."
See how nicely they worded "paramilitary teams?"
I am sure we can pick a proper term which is widely used today.
Lets See the communist Red Chinese see him as a bad guy. Check
The Communist Red Chines tried to kill him. Check
Americans helped him escape. Check
He is leader of a religion that has been pursecuted by Muslim Terrorist. that teaches peace and meditation. Check
Americans like him and helped him escape. Check
They say you can judge a mans charactor by the friends he keeps, I say an even better judge of charactor is by the enemy he makes. I am sure I would enjoy the company of the Dalai Lama more than any Communist or other blood suckers