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C-dub wrote:I was wondering the same thing, but kept reading to see if anyone else asked this question. And someone did.

This kind of an interesting question, when my father passes he's already stated that I will get his weapons. What should I do about those? There won't be any receipt because there won't be a sale. How will I prove ownership if it ever becomes an issue? Oops. Hijack? Should this be moved to it's own topic?

IANAL, but from what I understand about all this you don't need any proof (as a few others have said above). I "inherited" a pair of .410 shotguns from my grandpa. No paperwork, not even anything in probate. My grandma just said "I think he'd want you to have these" and that was that.

That being said, if it's a large or valuable collection, just work with the probate attorneys to give you whatever you need for your piece of mind.

C-dub wrote:I was wondering the same thing, but kept reading to see if anyone else asked this question. And someone did.

This kind of an interesting question, when my father passes he's already stated that I will get his weapons. What should I do about those? There won't be any receipt because there won't be a sale. How will I prove ownership if it ever becomes an issue? Oops. Hijack? Should this be moved to it's own topic?

The sale or transfer of a gun between private individuals is hardly any different than any other private property. There is no registration or "title" if you will for guns in Texas. If you have it in your possession, you are the presumed owner of it. You can use it, sell it, give it away as you please, just as you could if it were your dad's favorite hammer instead of a gun.

Purplehood wrote:

C-dub wrote:I was wondering the same thing, but kept reading to see if anyone else asked this question. And someone did.

This kind of an interesting question, when my father passes he's already stated that I will get his weapons. What should I do about those? There won't be any receipt because there won't be a sale. How will I prove ownership if it ever becomes an issue? Oops. Hijack? Should this be moved to it's own topic?

The same way your father had to prove ownership. You don't.

Really? I can't forsee any reason for this, but if they ever are confiscated, I don't need to be able to provide some kind of documentation that proves ownership? Okay. I guess I need to get some photos and data together on what I currently have and do this with anything I acquire in the future.

Possession is 9/10ths of the law

... Which is why, if you ever give a firearm to police, you sure better get a receipt from them

C-dub wrote: This kind of an interesting question, when my father passes he's already stated that I will get his weapons. What should I do about those? There won't be any receipt because there won't be a sale. How will I prove ownership if it ever becomes an issue?

Unless other heirs are going to contest ownership, you just take the weapons and they're yours; YOU don't have to prove ownership. The only reason to involve .gov is if your father had some stuff that needed a Federal tax stamp, like a machine gun, suppressor, short barreled rifle, etc.

austinrealtor wrote:That being said, if it's a large or valuable collection, just work with the probate attorneys to give you whatever you need for your piece of mind.

Even in the case of a large or valuable collection, most guns are portable. Unless there are (legal) machine guns, suppressors, etc., in the estate, as long as there are no other heirs or creditors with a claim, I see no reason to say anything to anyone . . . particularly to someone in government.

The guy that gave me my personalized CHL class said he encouraged everyone to go out and get/buy at least one weapon from an individual. That way in case guns where ever confiscated, they would not know you had it. Not sure if his hat was lined in tin foil?

lws380 wrote:The guy that gave me my personalized CHL class said he encouraged everyone to go out and get/buy at least one weapon from an individual. That way in case guns where ever confiscated, they would not know you had it. Not sure if his hat was lined in tin foil?

good advice, IMHO. I prefer unregistered guns...

Keith B wrote:

Stupid wrote:How did you buy the G26 under her name?

Read my straw purchase thread and start sweating.
http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... 23&t=27298" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Anyone can pay for it if she fills out the paperwork on a gun for her.

Don't try that one at Bullet Trap....

lws380 wrote:The guy that gave me my personalized CHL class said he encouraged everyone to go out and get/buy at least one weapon from an individual. That way in case guns where ever confiscated, they would not know you had it. Not sure if his hat was lined in tin foil?

Yeah...I believe I am going to go with the hat lined in tin foil option. If the government ever decided to "confiscate' guns, myself and many others I know would be on the nightly news until we were all dead. I am willing to bet that many Americans would be making that same choice if the government ever went off the deep end and made a run to confiscate firearms in mass. My thought is that the process of eliminating all guns to the point of confiscation would be more of a voluntary type game. It would be near impossible for them to figure out who has what guns and show up at the door asking for them. Not to mention that all my guns were stolen the week before the socialist libtards showed up at my door.

I will tell em I sold all mine to this lady in Houston.
Several years ago.. not sure axactly when... Shiela was her name I believe ....

was 2 last names .... Old Virginia General names .. I believe .. Jackson Lee .. Yeah thats it ..

Go see this Sheila Jackson Lee .... She bought of all my old guns sir

Yeah...I believe I am going to go with the hat lined in tin foil option. If the government ever decided to "confiscate' guns, myself and many others I know would be on the nightly news until we were all dead. I am willing to bet that many Americans would be making that same choice if the government ever went off the deep end and made a run to confiscate firearms in mass. My thought is that the process of eliminating all guns to the point of confiscation would be more of a voluntary type game. It would be near impossible for them to figure out who has what guns and show up at the door asking for them. Not to mention that all my guns were stolen the week before the socialist libtards showed up at my door. [/quote]

LOL!
The implications and permutations are so numerous, I had to quit writing my initial thoughts,
If they showed up at the door "Where's the warrant?"
If the asked for a gun "(silence)"
It would be so unmanageable, they could not not manage it.
They can't get 2.8 billion dollars back to car dealers for clunkers and they have something like 3000 people processing the paperwork.
Just paperwork! How many field agents would it take to go door to door and be effective? Cracks me up.
THEY CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

I have an acquaintance that used to have a CHL here in Texas and let it lapse last year when it became apparent the Obama was going to be elected. I asked him why he let it lapse and he said it was because that meant there was one less paper trail for them to follow if they ever wanted to confiscate his guns. I told him he was being ridiculous....no one is going door to door (especially here in Texas) to confiscate guns that were legally purchased. It would cause a new kind of revolution. Right now tackling "gun control" is not a hot topic for politicians. They have to spend all their time dealing with the failed economy, healthcare, the deficit and such. While "gun control" is still on the radar of some of the far-left wingers, all the rest are scrambling to survive the rest of the year before mid-term elections come up next year. All they would do by aggravating gun owners now is create more cannon fodder to lead them down the road to replacement.....IMHO.

We are safe. For now.....

Well put lonewolf. I totally agree with every word you said(typed).

03Lightningrocks wrote:Yeah...I believe I am going to go with the hat lined in tin foil option. If the government ever decided to "confiscate' guns, myself and many others I know would be on the nightly news until we were all dead. I am willing to bet that many Americans would be making that same choice if the government ever went off the deep end and made a run to confiscate firearms in mass. My thought is that the process of eliminating all guns to the point of confiscation would be more of a voluntary type game. It would be near impossible for them to figure out who has what guns and show up at the door asking for them. Not to mention that all my guns were stolen the week before the socialist libtards showed up at my door.

Believe what you want.

The fact of life is IF the confiscation comes, people would line up to turn in their guns - only some extreme minorities would refuse. Just human nature.

Most humans are sheep who would sadly waiting to be slaughter rather than putting up any fight - historically, just watch any genocide and you will see how people were simply herded into death just like sheep and cattle. This is just a predictable behavior of human.

Stupid wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:Yeah...I believe I am going to go with the hat lined in tin foil option. If the government ever decided to "confiscate' guns, myself and many others I know would be on the nightly news until we were all dead. I am willing to bet that many Americans would be making that same choice if the government ever went off the deep end and made a run to confiscate firearms in mass. My thought is that the process of eliminating all guns to the point of confiscation would be more of a voluntary type game. It would be near impossible for them to figure out who has what guns and show up at the door asking for them. Not to mention that all my guns were stolen the week before the socialist libtards showed up at my door.

Believe what you want.

The fact of life is IF the confiscation comes, people would line up to turn in their guns - only some extreme minorities would refuse. Just human nature.

Most humans are sheep who would sadly waiting to be slaughter rather than putting up any fight - historically, just watch any genocide and you will see how people were simply herded into death just like sheep and cattle. This is just a predictable behavior of human.

You start out with "Believe what you want" as if you have some disagreement with my post but then you posted what actually works well with my post.

It seems we both feel that confiscation would come in the form of a volunteer surrender of weapons. I agree that it would be a very extreme minority that would resist. Myself and many that I know would be amongst them. Tin foil hat territory is thinking the government is going to go door to door collecting weapons purchased through licensed dealers. No way in the world would they be able to co-ordinate something like this. Just the very move of the Government doing something like this would cause many folks to wake up and armed resistance would become a reality. Turning the military against citizens would have to be the next step and I believe the rank and file of the military would never take up arms against all citizens of our nation so the government could institute a totalitarian regime. The whole concept is ridiculous.

Having a weapon that was not purchased through a licensed dealer probably won't be affected by folks who would turn in their weapons voluntarily. Anyone who is this much of a sheep won't have the intestinal fortitude to resist, regardless of who the gun was purchased through.

We disagree on one thing though. I believe you may be under estimating the level of resistance to a total gun confiscation move.