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				Re: I Got a Denial Letter, Now What???
				Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:38 pm
				by Charles L. Cotton
				USA1 wrote:Charles L. Cotton wrote:
As of Sept. 1, 2009, the law changed.  Any "conviction" that has been set aside by any method is no longer a conviction for purposes of CHL eligibility. 
does this mean that a deferred adjudication
 no longer = conviction for CHL purposes  ?
 
No, this is a little twist.  A deferred adjudication is still a "conviction" for CHL eligibility, but if it's for a non-violent felony then it's not a "conviction" after 10 years.  The new statutory language about "set-asides" is very broad and covers any time of order setting aside a judgment.
Chas.
 
			
					
				Re: I Got a Denial Letter, Now What???
				Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:01 am
				by milo
				Charles L. Cotton wrote:USA1 wrote:Charles L. Cotton wrote:
As of Sept. 1, 2009, the law changed.  Any "conviction" that has been set aside by any method is no longer a conviction for purposes of CHL eligibility. 
does this mean that a deferred adjudication
 no longer = conviction for CHL purposes  ?
 
No, this is a little twist.  A deferred adjudication is still a "conviction" for CHL eligibility, but if it's for a non-violent felony then it's not a "conviction" after 10 years.  The new statutory language about "set-asides" is very broad and covers any time of order setting aside a judgment.
Chas.
 
I recently submitted my CHL along with a friend's. He believes that he is eligible, but I am not so sure. He had a possession felony that was reduced to a class A misdemeanor and he received deferred adjudication. It was 7 years ago. Is he still eligible?
 
			
					
				Re: I Got a Denial Letter, Now What???
				Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:17 am
				by USA1
				milo wrote:
I recently submitted my CHL along with a friend's. He believes that he is eligible, but I am not so sure. He had a possession felony that was reduced to a class A misdemeanor and he received deferred adjudication. It was 7 years ago. Is he still eligible?
he should be . A misdemeanor must be older than 5 years to be eligible .
 
			
					
				Re: I Got a Denial Letter, Now What???
				Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:25 am
				by joe817
				USA1 wrote:milo wrote:
I recently submitted my CHL along with a friend's. He believes that he is eligible, but I am not so sure. He had a possession felony that was reduced to a class A misdemeanor and he received deferred adjudication. It was 7 years ago. Is he still eligible?
he should be . A misdemeanor must be older than 5 years to be eligible .
 
 
  See P.3 of Handbook; GC 411.172 ELIGIBILITY (a)(8)
Note: there are exceptions to this. Please review GC 411.172 carefully with him.
 
			
					
				Re: I Got a Denial Letter, Now What???
				Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:08 pm
				by rdhetrick
				Just thought I'd post an update....
Last week, I spoke with the DPS attorney about my situation.  He was very polite and friendly.  I explained why I thought I should be eligible and he agreed to look at my case again.
Today, I got a call from him, and he agreed with me!  He said he would clear my application and it would continue with the process!  He said he was glad that I called him so we could work it out without having to have a hearing.
Hopefully, they've already looked at the fingerprints, and photos, and other background checks and it will just be a few days or weeks for the license to be printed.  I guess, worst case is that it starts from square one and I wait the 60 odd days.
Finally, something to restore a little faith in the system.
Rob
			 
			
					
				Re: I Got a Denial Letter, Now What???
				Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:47 pm
				by lws380
				Good news, hope you get some plastic soon!
			 
			
					
				Re: I Got a Denial Letter, Now What???
				Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:14 pm
				by NAVY CHIEF
				Like we say in the Navy - " the squeaky wheel gets greased!"
Congratulations! soon you will be "one of us"
Hooyah!
			 
			
					
				Re: I Got a Denial Letter, Now What???
				Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:37 pm
				by Dragonfighter
				Woohoo!  I am so glad to hear that.  I was getting a little sick reading this but a happy ending makes for a great story.
			 
			
					
				Re: I Got a Denial Letter, Now What???
				Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:10 pm
				by joe817
				Congratulations rdhetrick! Your perseverance paid off well.  

 
			
					
				Re: I Got a Denial Letter, Now What???
				Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:23 pm
				by srothstein
				Congratulations. I am glad to hear that it worked out for you. I am also very glad to hear that they talked with you and worked it out without the expense of a hearing. That says something good about the DPS attitude, and is a pleasant change from what we often hear about any government agency.
			 
			
					
				Re: I Got a Denial Letter, Now What???
				Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:59 am
				by rdhetrick
				Got a call this morning, my license is on its' way to the printer!!!!!
			 
			
					
				Re: I Got a Denial Letter, Now What???
				Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:01 am
				by Purplehood
				NAVY CHIEF wrote:Like we say in the Navy - " the squeaky wheel gets greased!"
Congratulations! soon you will be "one of us"
Hooyah!
What does a sailor know about wheels?
 
			
					
				Re: I Got a Denial Letter, Now What???
				Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:03 am
				by Oldgringo
				Congratulations!    
 
It has been said that, "the squeaking wheel gets the grease".  OTOH, the squeaking wheel may be replaced.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: I Got a Denial Letter, Now What???
				Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:03 am
				by joe817
				rdhetrick wrote:Got a call this morning, my license is on its' way to the printer!!!!!
FANTASTIC!!! Super congrats!  
 
  
 
			
					
				Re: I Got a Denial Letter, Now What???
				Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:59 am
				by Skiprr
				srothstein wrote:I am also very glad to hear that they talked with you and worked it out without the expense of a hearing. That says something good about the DPS attitude, and is a pleasant change from what we often hear about any government agency.
  
 
Congrats, rdhetrick; and way to persevere.